NotBillCosby

Hey zipazoid, I just mounted my phone on a post that happened to be near one of the practicing mats. I'll probably get someone to take something of better one of these days. I didn't initially intend to post my swings on the internet, but I found this great site. I need to get a side view as it would be more telling of my swing problems. Good luck!

The main thing that I am having trouble grasping is the movement of the shoulders. I see the correct movement is vertical with an iron swing, instead of what I have been doing, which is more horizontal. This is to encourage a downward blow. With a driver, I know you have to keep the right shoulder lower than the left at address, which I think is to encourage an upward blow. In this regard, do the shoulders still move vertical, with the left still towards the ball, albeit pointing up instead of down for the driver? With the downswing, do I consciously have to worry about how the shoulders turn for both irons and driver? This would help clear up a lot of my confusion in the swing!

A big help would be if someone could provide a link/book/vid of the best description on how to execute the golf swing in steps to clear it all up in my head. Does this exist? Sometimes I just 'get it' on the range and other times I am guessing on what I need to do with certain parts of the body.

Tried it out at the range last night and the results were impressive, although inconsistent which I know it will take time to ingrain this new feeling. I didn't realize how armsy and tense my swing was until I consciously tried to leave them out, slowing them down in the process. The shoulder turn and the proper footwork made all the difference in my ability to slot the club into the inside. It is really difficult to get that right elbow into the hip if you take a long backswing and have a horizontal turn.. I ended up in pain last month because of this. Anyways, it will take some work to get this proper feeling down, but the balls I struck yesterday definitely had more zip behind them...and with less effort too. Just got to have courage and trust that the proper mechanics will get me there and leave my muscle/ego at the door.

This site is awesome. Hopefully I can give back advice when I get this down one day. Had no idea about the shoulder turn being so vertical, still trying to implement that. I think my grip is better now. Before it was left hand weak, now it is more left hand strong for that wrist cock.

Quick question. My former backswing, is this more for a 2-plane swing or is it incorrect all together? Or am I getting confused and my new backswing is fundamentally sound and correct for both 1 and 2 plane swings? I am 5'9, shorter arms and broader chested - I was wondering if there is a swing that is more suitable for my body type or if the whole 1 and 2 plane thing is irrelevant.

The chopper and Valley Golfer.. excellent observations. I have been struggling with using my weight shift and hips more. I try to take my hands out of the equation. I have made every swing mistake in the book. My swings a few months back were horrid. Casting, all upper body.. you name it. When I do get it right, it feels very free and fluid. Less strain on my body - I hurt myself a bit a month ago. I get surprised where all the power comes from and I dont feel my hands banging on the mats. I realized my backswing was out of whack but my instructor rightly insists I work on one thing at a time. I have plenty of time now so I am getting some good instruction here on my backswing. I realize now how much trouble it is to tuck that right elbow with a poor takeaway. The better takeaway corrects that. I like the bug squashing thought with the left toe. Sometimes the whole shift your weight is way too generic of a description -- as a result, I lunge my body at times. Ill try to keep the spine angle now. I have plenty to work on. At times I have felt like giving up but I am happy to know its a work in progress and I am seeing results. Hopefully in a few months ill get it down and post a final result. Thanks so much!

Yes sir! I saw a video of a friends swing who played pro and his right elbow seems to be pointing to the ground and the arms move as a triangular unit that whips thru. A simplification I know but I see how the pressed elbows keep that unit intact.

Would anyone consider this progress? What is still missing - I wish I were hitting it further but I am happy with this so far.

There is a lot of good advice in this thread. Thanks to all that responded. I did manage to get the shaft that position and Ill have to upload this in the my swing section. Should it feel like the butt end up the club is coming up and around to the left at the end of the golfswing since it is in a circle and the left elbow is higher than the right?

Thanks Beachcomber, I appreciate all your helpful support. Reputation added.

Exactly. Thank you for letting me know. It feels easier to get the right elbow tucked in than it did before and I think this corrects that. I have no idea to properly hinge/unhinge the wrists. I think I did do it correctly a couple of times - not sure how - and it felt like a slingshot when it released. Not sure if this is what I am supposed to feel, but by the look of the ball path, it looked and felt right. I use a neutral or slightly weak grip. I'll try to get a picture of it sometime, but from what I am told it is correct.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U71MnmBGnUs&feature;=plcp If embedding doesn't work, link is on top. Updated swing. How is this for the takeaway? I think there seems to be an issue with the wrists in the downswing. I hit a lot of pushed shots and the ones that managed to go straight were weak. I did hit a couple that went very nice when I did something with the wrists and I had a feeling like the club was behind me and it hammered through.

OK so a checklist of things I have been working on: 1. left arm and right arm straight at takeaway to produce a shorter backswing and keep the left arm straight to backhand the ball 2. keep hands more on the inside to achieve depth in the backswing 3. rotate shoulders more vertically and have left shoulder point at ball - I did this and I can feel that I can power pivot through the ball easier this way I'll upload something tonight and see if there are any other major issues. My goal is that I really want to be able to hit the ball and see/hear it zip through the air with more acceleration like I see the better players do. Most the shots I have just seem to float rather than get that piercing trajectory.

Hey, yea I set up two videos in the my swing section. I saw that I am not achieving what was mentioned, but if the rotation to the left too early is a problem of mine, then I will try and correct that, along with using my right foot action.