Oceanvue

You're a moderator? Your overbearing board nature is a symptom of a much deeper condition. You might want to get that looked at

This gentleman brought up Bubba Watson. My point to the forum Alpha and all the little Beta minions was well bad example because Bubba might be able to hit a fade further than you (or pretty much anyone on this forum) can hit a draw but he himself says a draw has more distance

Here's a quote from Bubba Watson about hitting a long ball 4. Learn To Hit A Draw Learn to draw the ball If you slice, you're not paying as high a price as players used to with the older equipment. That's because modern drivers don't spin the ball as much, and the ball doesn't spin as much, either. But the lesser penalty for a slice has lulled a lot of amateurs to sleep. The best way to really boom the ball out there is to swing from the inside and turn it over. You'll compress the ball more, and the shot will bore through the wind better. And if you find the right driver, you'll carry the ball farther with a draw than you would with a fade -- another result of modern equipment. Read More http://www.golfdigest.com/golf-instruction/2010-07/10-rules-watson#ixzz2KcznLwtG I've read enough over the last day to acknowledge the difference is not as pronounced as I envisioned and a well struck power fade is a much better "all weather" drive then a draw (I already knew that)

ask it again but without the attitude and you might get an answer

Not Patrick but I too was raised on Guam

"In general, draws go farther for most golfers because most golfers normally hit weak, wipey cuts and the few times a year they hit a "draw" it's with better, more efficient impact dynamics" that was a quote from from a post above sans the quotation marks. There I fixed it

I think there is nothing wrong with hitting a ball straight and in fact I will go out on a limb and say it's a good thing (Disclaimer: in most cases)

the question is can Bubba hit a draw farther then he hits a fade not whether a pro hits a fade farther then an amateur hits a draw. Clear?

In general, draws go farther for most golfers because most golfers normally hit weak, wipey cuts and the few times a year they hit a "draw" it's with better, more efficient impact dynamics. As you'd likely agree, there's nothing magical about a draw tilted spin axis that makes the ball go farther. and there's your answer folks

I'll bring my buddy Common Sense and we'll make it a foursome

Yea OK and the launch dynamics for a louie would be the same as a roscoe. This issue has been showing up for years on this and other golf related boards and it is always the same, those who say there is no difference are talking about a ball with the same trajectory and rotation properties whether biased right or left would be the same (which of course is true) and those that say the draw will out total distance a fade are talking about as impacted by a golf swing and connection with a club face. Fades are cut or pushed with an open face and draws are out side in delofting the club. We're not shooting these balls with a potato gun or a launching with a jugs machine

You should have Physics introduce you to Reality.

Play to your best club. If you are deadly and automatic with your 8 iron from 125 play to that club.

Paradox..Google is your friend get to know him: Here's a good explanation and yes Tiger Woods hits a ball a long way In order for a golf ball to fade or slice the ball must be stuck with a clubface that is open to the swingpath. By contrast a draw or hook is struck with a clubface which is closed to the path. A clubface which is open to the swingpath will result in more backspin being imparted at impact whereas a clubface which is closed to the swingpath essentially means the clubface is delofted, resulting in less backspin being applied

My understanding: By cutting a fade with an open face will impart more spin and a higher flight path then as opposed to coming outside or or snapping the face closed to produce a draw and a lower flight path less side spin and a lower trajectory thus more run. Guys who hit draws end up down the airway further then guys who hit fades (I think we all know that). I've been working on shaping my shots lately, and for me, to get back down into the single digits after a long layoff it's going to be important. By the way equipment hsa changed dramatically in the last 10 years