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Thanks for your shaft suggestions. For all to see, below is the EBAY guide to Ping Shafts... CS-LITE (Regular & Stiff): Weight: 93.9 (R), 107.3 (S) Torque: 1.8 (R), 1.7 (S) Description: Lightweight steel shaft that has a mid flex point and a mid to soft tip section. A very common shaft found in the G2 and G5 series. Ball Flight: This shaft is designed to hit the ball the highest of all of the shafts offered at this flex. Z-Z65 (Stiff): Weight: 108.8g Torque: 1.6 Description: An updated version of the ZZ-Lite. Lightweight steel shaft that has a high flex point and stiff tip section. This shaft is only offered in stiff. The Z-Z65 is similar in flex to a Dynamic Gold S300, but is much lighter in weight. A very common shaft in ISI irons through current iron offerings. Ball Flight: This shaft is designed for a mid-ball flight due to the weight. It should fly lower then the CS-Lite and higher then the DGS and DGX. ZZ-LITE (Stiff): Weight: 115.0g Torque: 1.9 Description: Very similar to the Z-Z65 but heavier in weight. The ZZ-Lite has a high flex point and stiff tip section. A very common shaft in Eye 2 irons. Ball Flight: Same as the Z-Z65. (NOT available for new orders) JZ (Regular & Stiff): Weight: 109.8g (R), 115.1g (S) Torque: 1.9 (R) 1.7 (S) Description: A mid weight steel shaft that plays a little softer than the Z-Z65 and ZZ-Lite. A very common shaft in Zing, Zing 2, and ISI irons. Ball Flight: Due to the mid flex point of this shaft it is designed to hit the ball between the CS-Lite and the Z-Z65. (NOT available for new orders) DGS (Stiff): Weight: 124.5g Torque: 1.5 Description: Dynamic Gold S-400. A heavy shaft with a high flex point and a stiff tip section. Ball Flight: Weight of this shaft should hit the ball lower then all of the shafts except the DGX. DGX (X-Stiff): Weight: 122.8g Torque: 1.4 Description: Dynamic Gold X-100. A heavy shaft with a high flex point and a very stiff tip section. Ball Flight: This shaft is heavy and aimed at players with a high swing speed or quick tempo. The shaft should produce the lowest ball flight of all shafts listed. KT & KT-M (Stiff): Weight: 106g Torque: 1.9 Description: A mid weight shaft with a high flex point and stiff tip section. These shafts are most commonly found in Eye2, and Zing irons. Ball Flight: Mid, similar to ZZ-Lite (NOT available for new orders) Microtaper (Stiff): Weight: 115g Torque: 1.9 Description: A mid-weight shaft with a high flex point and stiff tip section. This shaft is very similar to the KT Shaft. Most commonly found in the K series, Eye, and Eye 2 irons. Ball Flight: Mid, similar to ZZ-Lite (NOT available for new orders)

Thank-You all for your input, very informative and helpful especially the shaft input of Stiffs that feel less than advertised. About being an 18 and having trouble with longer irons I guess I should have been clearer. It's not that I don't / can't hit them it's that there not as pure as the 8 and below. I have never hit a 4 iron with the Ci7's where you get that pure "tick" off the club face, same with the 5, less so with the 6 and less yet again with 7, 8 and below are mostly pure. Alot of courses I play the par fours are reachable with Driver or three wood followed by 8 iron or below. It's the par 5's and long par 3's where I need 180-200 ish where I have no solution in my bag.

I'm sort of suprised by the very little feedback I received...as a new member wondering if the other members can see this. he threads of this or that ping club are quite long, I was hoping to tap the ping groupies...

About four years ago I was fitted at a demo day, the result was G10 blue dot. I hit the i10's ok but the Ping staff member suggested the G10's. With my standard clubs I am a little toe heavy and compensate without realizing it. Instead of buying the G10's ( due to the expense ), I purchased a set of Wilson Ci7's. I have now owned them for four years and in all that time I have hit each long iron crisply only a handful of times. I can hit the 9-UW fine ( my SW & LW are Titleist Forged TW wedges ),but the 8 less, 7 even less, 6 hardly and forget the 5 & 4. Feel like broken bat singles.... So, I would like to go out and get a affordable set of blue dots. Looking at the prices on ebay etc... my price range would be G10's down to G2's. Open to I10's and i5's as well. The problem is here is that I can not try them before purchase so I would like to describe my game and let you folks help me decide. I am a 18 handicap since the Ci7's. Prior to that my average score was mid 80's with an occasional sub 40 nine holer mixed in. I am a strong iron hiiter, I hit down always taking a decent divot. As far as length goes: Lob W - 85 and below SW - 100 - 105 UW-125 PW - 140-150 9 - 150 - 155 8 - 155-16ish 7 - 165-170 6 - 180 5 - 190 4 - 200 3 - 210 I don't really work the ball heavily, maybe very slightly in some circumstances. My iron ball flight if struck correctly is straight or a slight draw. My league starts in about 4 weeks.... In advance I appreciate all of your input !! Thanks