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Thanks iacas. I really like the pull down exercise with a cable. I've done before but obviously need to get back to it. For whatever reason, when I do the pump drill my left should still wants to work up too soon (maybe its due to not getting back into flexion or having too much lateral move with the lower body....i dont know???). As for all the other questions, i know its hard to get an exact answer because everyone is different. I think for "me" feeling like i get back into flexion on the DS, left shoulder a little more forward/down and speeding up #4 should help. I posted a new FO vid to "member swings" hitting a PW. Seems to be getting a little better working on the above.

Short iron FO 2/8/17. It's about time for a new mat i know...

I'm sure this question has been asked (or at least talked about) somewhere on this forum, but I couldn't find it. So, here are my questions: 1) If one wanted to speed up power accumulator #4 (or #1 for that matter) what are some drills to help accomplish this? 2) At what part of the downswing would this be ideal? 3) Would having a later release of these two increase or decrease power? 4) If using #1 to achieve #4 (or vice versa), how do you keep the right elbow close to the body? Less lateral move? More internal rotation of the right arm? 5) What role do the shoulders play in this? Does getting the left shoulder more forward and down (or getting back into flexion or more forward tilt) help with any of this? Most Tour players I see seem to release 4 quite well. However, Sam Snead seemed to do this later in the swing. What are the pros and cons of releasing #1 and #4 early or late in the downswing and what would be considered ideal? Thanks

The lighting is bad and it's a bit blurry, but it's all I have until later today.

I agree i'm too closed at impact. I have a tendency to have too much lateral move early in the downswing resulting in a lot of secondary axis tilt coming in to the ball. Also, right elbow tends to get stuck behind me on the downswing causing me to get a little flippy at the bottom. I've been trying to get the right elbow more in front, with the left shoulder more forward and down (or less secondary axis tilt), but doing that while opening the hips/shoulders is hard for me to grasp. In other words, i'm trying to get the arms in front of the body on the downswing and seem to stall the hips in order to do so. Just can't quite get the feeling of doing it correctly. Thanks for the video and your thoughts.

I've been Playing Golf for: 26 years My current handicap index or average score is: +2.1 My typical ball flight is: high draw The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: mega hook Videos:

Thanks nevets88. I'm actually quite surprised to see that his path with a driver is -5.7. Would've thought he was more zero'd out than that, but obviously hits a larger fade than than I thought.

IMO, he has one of the best (if not the best) swings out there, so i'd just like to see where he's at on some things. Path, FA, AOA, VSP in particular on his standard fade pattern. I'm not on Twitter or I would.

Anyone know where to find Robert Rock's Trackman numbers? Preferably most recent, but any will do. Thanks

Anyone know who South African golfer Brandon Stone works with???

Thanks for the info. I had hoped that wasn't the case. :)

I'm looking for a place to stay near Kiawah Island Golf Resort other than the resort itself. Budget is $200 or less per night. Any suggestions? Thanks!

No ego or pride here, I just want to learn! I do have a question about your nail analogy though. If I put the palm of my right hand on the nail, then turn my right shoulder back, is this not decreasing the flex of my right elbow without adding pressure towards the nail?

Well that pretty much sums it up. Skipping physics class was not such a good idea after all. Thanks for post iacas. I'm going to shut up now.

Guys this technology awesome! Just trying to understand here but these are my thoughts. I'm having a hard time understanding how decreasing flex in the rear knee on the backswing leads to pressure under the rear foot. To me this pressure would be achieved by moving the pelvis (while opening the hips) towards the rear leg 2-3 inches. The rear knee decreasing in flex would just help to keep the upper axis centered and add a little rotation, not pressure. On the downswing I could definitely see where an increase in knee flex of the lead leg (along with moving the pelvis 4-6 in back toward the target) could add pressure under the left foot. To sum it up, if there was zero hip slide/weight shift/pelvis shift, etc. and the swing was pure rotation, the only way I see to increase pressures is to increase knee flex, not decrease it.

I just laughed so loud that my wife turned around and looked at me like I was crazy. That's awesome. Gotta love Boo though, that guy is nuts!

Hogan wanted to FEEL like he turned his SHOULDERS on this imaginary plane of glass, but in realty he turned his shoulders a bit more level relative to the inclined pane of glass as indicated in Five Lessons.

Yes, in appearance Hogan did have a flatter swing than most but only because of his height, build and posture. Nearly all of the great ball strikers in history have had their left arm matching their shoulder plane at the top of the backswing regardless of stature. It Brandle Chamblee is the one who made that comment, I think you can pretty much disregard it entirely. I disagree with almost everything he says. Just my opinion :)

I agree. The more I learn about my own swing, the more I finding out that there are certain area that are a big deal for me and where I need to devote the majority of my time practicing. Quote: NO doubt in my mind that MAC knows as much (probably more) than anyone on the planet right now regarding the golf swing. I've seen bootleg tapes of him giving lessons and swinging and the info is awesome. What I don't understand though, is that if he has so much control over the golf ball, why are his scores not reflecting it? I'm in no way talking bad about Mac here, I love his golf swing, I just don't understand! Most people will argue that he's just a terrible putter, but I don't buy it. I'd be curious to know what his GIR stats are for competitive golf in the last 10 years. Again, let me re-iterate, i'm not talking bad about Mac, i'm just trying to understand what's really going on. The only player I can think of with a MORADish swing with any success at the professional level is Robert Rock and he swings it very very close to Mac. Hogan, on the other hand, was very successful transferring the game from the practice tee to the golf course. Over time he built a swing that he could trust and one where he could really control the golf ball under any amount of pressure. This is what I'm after. No one has ever duplicated Hogan, nor will they. In my case, I've simply tried to implement his fundamentals as I interpret them from the book along with lots of video. I find that most instructors out there reference Hogans fundaments but hardly implement them. I also think that most out there (as I have at times) abandon Hogans fundamentals because they find it too difficult or uncomfortable. In my opinion, his golf swing is the best ever. I know most golf gurus will say Snead (and I love Snead) but I'm not convinced. As for TGM, I would say that there's a lot of guys playing the tour with some sort of TGM background, but I cant think of one that is a hardcore TGMer. When I was playing the mini tours, all the guys out there were talking about Boo Weekley and how he hit better than anyone. I hear he has a background with TGM but I'm not positive about that. I know Grant himself had some success out on tour and he's now working with some guys out there. CHIII and Summerhays are just a couple that come to mind. I really liked what he had to say about my swing as he pointed out a few things that I couldn't figure out on my own. Overall, I guess i'm just a little weary of the modern day golf swing because we haven't really seen anyone dominate or play really well consistently who uses this type of swing. Quote: I've been following you guys (5SK) for the last couple of months and really like what you guys are doing. I looked at this briefly but will take a more in depth look a little later today. Thanks for the comments!

Thanks for the link Stretch! I was just thinking I've got to get a better camera, this iphone just isn't going to cut it anymore. To answer your question, no is was not hitting a golf ball in the video. I'll get a new camera and record some swings FO and DL hitting some balls.

First off, let me say that I have the upmost respect for all golfers and especially those who have spent countless hours trying to figure out the ideal way to swing a golf club. I personally have spent many many hours studying film on Mr. Hogan as well as his book, Five Lessons. I've also had extensive training from TGM & Morad instructors as well as instruction from Grant Waite. While I know that TGM, Morad, Waite Mayo golf, etc. all have their differences, in my opinion, they're all at the top of modern day instruction. I find myself going back and forth between methods (modern swing vs. Hogan fundamentals) and want to hear everyone's thoughts on why one method is better than the other. So, the intention of this thread is to discuss the similarities/differences and pros/cons of Modern day instruction (TGM, MORAD, WM golf, etc.) vs. the fundaments set out by Mr. Hogan in Five Lessons.