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Dunno, but watch any video of a pro and their club butt is pointing towards their belt buckle.

I got fitted a while ago to the AP1s with a 2 degree upright lie. My swing had since changed dramatically. My golf instructor has been trying to change around my set up position. My club was pointed north of my belt buckle and he has been trying to change it so it points at my belt buckle. While endeavoring to make the changes on the range, I filmed myself and discovered that my club was still pointing north of my belt buckle during my set up. It felt like my hands were relaxed and my club was no in an upright position anymore, but upon watching the film of myself, I was proved wrong. Could my difficulties with pointing my club at my belt buckle be because of the 2 degrees upright lie I have on my irons? Thoughts?

Yeah, I get what you are saying. What ever club works is the club for me. The one reason I said players club was to refer to a club with minimal to no offset. I can't stand offset and I can't swing a club that I think is ugly or clunky. Most irons outside of "players club" do not fit the mold of what I am looking for. I just worry if I have the ability to play those types of clubs well. But yeah, thanks for your insight. Be open minded is important.

I think it depends on the context. I take mulligans once in a while or play a few balls and take a few gimmies, etc. However, I do this when I am playing casually by myself or with friends. When I am recording a handicap I adhere to the rules. If this guy you're talking about is playing in this manner and has the nerve to tell you he shot the score he put down on his scorecard, then you just need to stop playing with him. Even worse if he is playing for a handicap or you guys are playing in a competitive manner. Better yet, if you can break your code of conduct for one round, out-cheat him at his own game. He'll get the idea.

Some Background: I have been playing golf since I was 5 and I am now 18. My handicap has been as low as a 6, but due to some complications, I stopped playing for a year. I am not scoring as well, obviously, but that is mostly due to my issues off the tee, and my putting and short game. My iron game has been good to great; my mishits seem to be coming off of alignment issues, not swing issues. In my prime, my scores ranged from the mid 70s to the lower to mid 80s on a good day, and on a bad day, my scores ranged from the high 80s to the low 90s. I am becoming more consistent as I grow older and my swing matures. I expect to be back to those same scores again as I keep playing. I am looking to buy forged-player irons because I desire a lower trajectory and an increased ability to work the ball. I also detest the offset of non-player irons, and think it is easier to control my swing without a club with offset. Obviously, I am not perfect and do hit balls a tad off the sweet-spot (I am not talking shanks). My most prevalent mishit seems to be a slight thin shot. I worry that player clubs will not offer me enough forgiveness. I can afford to lose some, but how unforgiving (or forgiving) are modern player clubs? I am talking clubs like Mizuno's MP-59 or 54s or Cobra's blade flow set. If I hit one slightly thin or a tad on the toe, will I be penalized much worse than if I hit the same shot with a middle of the road game-improvement iron? I am currently using Titleist Ap1s from 2011. Some spec's: I use custom fit Titleist AP1s with an "stiff" S300 steel shaft. My swing nears 105 mph. A good hit with driver produces a shot that ranges from 260-275 yards. My 150 club is a 7 iron. I play a fade ordinarily with a slightly open stance and club face. In short: Am I ready to upgrade to a player iron? Any suggestions as to which irons or brands I should be looking at? Of course, I am going to get the clubs I order custom fit.