JRobber

Thanks @downbylaw11 nice to know someone had the exact same issue! what techniques or tips did you use to get to a more nuetral grip?

Hi @downbylaw11 I think it's an accurate observation and I've been working to weaken the grip. It just feels really powerless on the backswing and I just end up closing the face part way through my back swing, very annoying as I never used to do that! Trouble really started for me when researching how to avoid 'skying' my drives (which I'd only do occasionally) Some advice online was to hit more up on the ball, get behind it and don't come over the top. I believe this got me over compensating, leading to the stronger grip and staying back too much on the follow through, swinging out too much as per @iacas You think I could just go back to my old swing but to no avail! Thanks for the advice

Thanks @iacas I will certainly try the tip and also to try and contribute more (not sure anyone wants golf advice from me though ?)

Hi @iacas do you have any advice on how I can stop hitting out so much? Drills, swing thoughts? -still struggling

Hitting 100 yard Drives that nose dive (dead duck effect)! Can't stop, please help! I've been Playing Golf for: 30 years My current handicap index or average score is: 16 My typical ball flight is: With Driver a bit of a fade (at least it used to be) The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: short dead duck Recently I started hitting drives that only go about 100 yards and then nose dive into the ground. For the past several years my driver has been my most reliable club. I don't hit super long, but it always had a high flight and typically carried about 220 and roll to 250. For the last few years I started having trouble with irons and recently had very good results with a bit of a closed face at address and an exaggerated feeling of lag (i.e. the club coming last - after hips shoulder turn on follow through). I think this is creeping into my driver swing and now I can't hit a drive to save my life! I think the cause could be that I'm closing the face or releasing too early. When I try to weaken my grip, it feels really strange, like i can get any power (and I think Ive always had a strong-ish grip). I am not too sure how to avoid releasing too early (if that's what I'm doing), any drills? My problems and symptoms sound very similar to what @laffi11 reported here (but the tips given aren't helping me or I'm not executing properly): https://thesandtrap.com/forums/topic/76574-i-keep-putting-top-spin-on-the-ball-with-my-driver/ Things I have tried and results: - Try hitting more 'up' on the ball result: seems I end up hitting the bottom of face and get worm burner's - Lower tee (in the past I had good success with higher tee - but no longer) result: still hit dead duck and probably hit lower on face more often - Less lower body movement and feel to only turn shoulders result: hit some good drives, but not as much distance and dead duck crept back in - Use dry erase marker on ball to check where I'm hitting on face result: many times I confirmed to hit dead centre, but still get 100 yard dead duck! - Speed up swing or swing 'harder' result: I sometimes hit awful pop-ups that go 50 yards. Assume I am getting too steep on the way down or outside in. Part of the problem is I keep trying new things on the range and I can never get back to my old swing, which may be compounding the issues here. Any suggestions on drills etc would be appreciated. I know the videos are not the best quality or position. I can post more if necasssary. Thanks! Videos: Here is my new bad swing (dead duck result): Here is an even worse exmaple: Here is my old swing that I was getting 'good' restuls from only a month or so ago: