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So you think I have a fast looking golf swing? That's a first.

This one is for all the doubters out there:

Erik, Quote: I think Joe probably lost interest after being sloughed off by Paul. Winter appears to be a great time to give lessons in Las Vegas. Heck, the schools we've taught in Las Vegas have been during the winter. Winter is not the greatest time to teach in Vegas. I can only teach people who want to come out for lessons. 99.9% of my students come in from all over the world. Would you like to book a trip to Vegas taking a chance that the weather is not going to be 45 degrees and howling wind? People want to come here when the weather is guaranteed to be warmer. I never sloughed anyone off. I don't sit here all day waiting to reply to people. When I have time I check this site. Your messages go to my spam folder. If I catch them and have time to answer I will. To answer your question, TrackmanMaestro did call. He said he was going to come out and never did. The offer still stands. --------------------------------------------------- Quote: I have two degrees in sciences. I get the physics of the golf swing. That doesn't mean I'm going to base what I teach on what a machine that can be built (without legs, arms, eyes, muscles, etc.) and programmed to do ANYTHING does to hit a golf ball. It does mean I'm going to teach a golf swing to someone that uses and is based on the physics of the world in which we live. It does mean that I can explain the physics behind what I teach. Surely Paul can do the same, no? I do not have a degree in the sciences but I get the physics behind it. 99.9% of golfer's do not have science degrees either. Instead of wowing people with my knowledge, why not explain it to them in a way they can understand and gets results? I think this would be more productive. I do have plenty of rocket scientists that have my products. Engineers seem to love my method cause they finally see it and get it. Am I going to talk to them on their level? Probably not. What I am going to do is explain it in a way that they can figure it out in their own mind. --------------------------------------------------- Quote: If Paul is willing to engage in meaningful conversation here, there's little need to spend the money and take the time to watch him teach I am willing to engage in meaningful conversation. It just seems you are forming an opinion of my technique before you even know what I teach. Why not just ask the question civilly instead of ... things like: "there is no way this can happen" ... "it can't do that" ... etc. etc. I have heard all of this before when I used to post on the Golf Channel discussion board. They would doubt my method and say it doesn't work. Instead of arguing with them I just kept teaching. I have the proof that my method works by selling over 80,000 copies of Swing Machine Golf, the tens of thousands of comments people made on Revolution Golf site beneath my tips, all the YouTube comments, and the thousands of testimonials people have emailed me. If you doubt it works just come out and watch me. If you are willing to make the same offer just let me know when you are doing a school in Vegas (or maybe San Diego) and I will come and watch you so I can learn more about what you are teaching.

Erik, I see the golf swing differently that others. My technique was not always based on the machine. For the first 8 years, I taught people to look like pros when they swung. I knew what Iron Byron was back then but never gave it a second thought. In 1999, the internet was gaining popularity so I went online and found True Temper's website. On it I saw a looping video of the Iron Byron. To me, it looked like a golfer as it kept swinging the club. After making this realization, I grabbed my golf digest magazines and opened up the swing sequences of various pros. I freeze framed the Iron Byron and compared them side by side. Every pro I put beside the machine matched up with the machine frame by frame. Here are a couple of examples: Tiger Woods Swing Sequence vs. Iron Byron Ernie Els Swing Sequence vs. Iron Byron After seeing this, I decided to analyze the machine. The machine hit the ball 100% consistently whereas pros were only about 70%. To me the machine looked simple yet it got perfect results. So why not at least look at it? In looking at it I realized it only had 3 elements that allowed it to hit perfect shots: 1. Circular Rotation 2. An Unrestricted Hinge 3. A Constant Forward Tilt These are the elements I teach in Swing Machine Golf. I want to make it simple for people to understand and to get great results. From the thousands of testimonials I have received I think what I am teaching is working. Whoever wants to come out and watch me teach is more than welcome to do so. Just let me know. Here is what the inventor of Iron Byron, George Manning has to say about how he invented the machine: I answered most of these questions in my very first post. Here are the answers to your questions again: It doesn't have legs: ANSWER: The motor represents the golfers legs It doesn't have a weight shift: ANSWER: it is a machine designed to test golf clubs. It doesn't need to have a weight shift. The golfer shifts their weight to power their swing. so how much weight is on the left foot at impact ? ANSWER: 70-90% It swings on plane: ANSWER: yes, it swings on plane. It replicates Bryon Nelson's downswing. it doesn't have wrists: ANSWER: yes it has a hinge at the end of the arm which represents the golfer's wrists. a poor grip: ANSWER: the club is held in a sleeve representing the golfer grip. bad alignment: it aligns wherever they align the machine for what shot they want it to hit. I don't see how this is bad alignment. Paul Wilson

You did not read my reply. I said if they do my "Touch the Legs Position" the weight would have to shift. Again, you do not know my method and you are assuming you do not want me to have people shift their weight. To clarify again, the student cannot get to my "Touch Legs Legs Position" unless they shift their weight. By turning and getting to my Touch the Legs Position their weight will shift on its own. Can we now put this to rest.

We do not teach the same thing. Someone showed me Mike Bender's book a while ago. I reviewed it and we are not on the same page. Keep in mind I had the inventor of Iron Byron (George Manning) standing right in front of me backing up everything I teach in my DVD series. I have also bee using Iron Byron in my teaching since 1999. I actually took lessons from Mike Bender many years ago in Orlando. This was back when his teaching was teaching based on Mac O'Grady's research. Weight Shift For those that do not understand how the weight will shift if you just turn your hips here is how it happens: The weight shifts automatically because getting to my "Touch the Legs" position into the follow through requires you to shift your weight. It is impossible to get to this position if you do not shift your weight. So, I know the weight shift will happen if you hit my position so why would I tell you to shift your weight? From the top of the backswing to impact is approx. 1/4 of a second. In this time, I need you to be thinking about turning (knowing the weight will automatically shift). If the arms are powerless (like they are in Iron Byron) the mass (club) will move towards 90 degrees to the axis (body) thus flattening the plane in the downswing allowing the club to swing out at the ball. Conclusion People need to know my whole technique. Hearing bits and pieces or thinking they know what I teach does not give people the whole picture so you are left wondering how this and that occurs. I don't really teach anything bizarre or out of the ordinary it is how I put it together and explain it that differs from other teachers. Anyone and everyone is more than welcome to come and watch me teach. FYI I really do not have time to be posting a lot so I may jump in when I have time.

Trackman Maestro, I have always said the shift will occur to the left because you cannot get onto the tip of the back tip without the weight shifting. If the shift will occur why think about it? From the top of the backswing you have 1/4 of a second to impact. If you are thinking "shift" when are you thinking "turn"? If you think turn knowing full well the shift will occur you kill 2 birds with one stone. If you solely think shift, you run the risk of shifting too much. The more you shift laterally, the more your upper body tilts back int he downswing. The more tilt, the more the path swings out at the ball. If you tight the wrists with a severe inside/out path you block it or push fade it. If you flip it you duck hook it. There is lateral in the golf swing. If there was no lateral you would be totally stuck on the back foot as you come down. I am saying the lateral will happen on its own if you get to the tip of the back toe.

JD924, Here is your first post to me: Quote: I think it's pretty clear Mr.Wilson doesn't know the real ball flight laws. I remember watching him make a video saying to not slide and how terrible it was. Something we know is flat out incorrect. First, this is insulting. Next, you are bashing me without know anything about me or what I teach. How would you feel if someone said this to you about what you do?

Phil McGleno, Did I say the knee was locked at impact? NO. I said I want them thinking of an arrow on the back of the knee going back instead of thinking about a lateral shift or they can put a shaft a few inches off the hip and miss the shaft. So don't mistake what I am saying. I like the left leg locked once the lead arm is parallel to the ground in the through swing but the person has to start making this move from the top of the backswing as soon as they start down. This means it is still bent at impact. I also like the person to end up on the tip of the back toe. If this occurs the weight had to shift. So you can get the weight shifting laterally without having to think about it. Some people like teaching a lateral shift. I do not.

JD924, No one asked me to address a slide. You said you watched one of my videos and it was terrible so why would I tell you it again? If you need help with something just ask instead of bashing me. Although you may not like my technique maybe I can provide some information that can help your golf swing. If you need it again, here is my cure: From the top of the backswing you need to be thinking about the left knee. It needs to be moving straight back as you start the downswing. I get people to imagine and arrow on the back of this knee and forcing it straight back or to put a shaft in the ground about 3-4 inches off the left hip. As you come down you miss the shaft with the left hip. So you are not thinking shift to start down. You are thinking "turn." The shift will occur if you end up on the tip of the back toe without even thinking about it. If done properly the left knee will have gone back locking this leg at the end of the swing. I like the right leg to have come around and is physically touching the left leg into the follow through. This provides feedback telling the person they have done the position correctly. If the legs are not touching the stance usually is too wide, they are not shifting their weight and/or the are shifting too much. Curing a slide is definitely tricky. It took me 2 months back when I was about 18. Back in the day I was told to shift to start the downswing. The more lateral shift you have the more it tilts your upper body to the right in the downswing. This creates the path too much from the inside. If the face is square to this path the ball will push. If it is open it will push/fade and if it is too closed it will duck hook.

TrackmanMaestro, It is winter here right now so lessons are spotty. Once it gets into March I should be in full swing. Just shoot me an email. You will find this on my website: http://www.paulwilsongolf.com/ so we can make arrangements. I am at Bear's Best Las Vegas.

MVMAC, Yes, the reason is the going that way creates an extra step. When you have someone roll the wrists early they will come over the top. If you cure the path first then they come over the top you have to fix the path again. So you fix the spin first then the path second. All the best,

MVMAC, The logic is this: If you are slicing the ball the face is open to the path. I want the person to first get the face closed to the path. I do so by getting them to manually roll the wrists over as soon as they start the downswing. This is because from the top of the swing to impact is approx. 1/4 of a second. If you try to get the person to roll the wrists closer to impact you may get the person to square they face but it will not hook (they will hit it straight left which is not enough). This is very important that the person hooks the ball because a few minutes after they hook the ball you are going to take their mind off rolling the wrists. If you do and they are not rolling it over enough they will go back to slicing it again. If you get them to overdo the roll over they get used to the feeling of rolling the wrists very quickly and can still do it even without thinking about it whereas in the past the face is always open. Now once they can hook about 10 shots or so in a row I then change the thought to the body rotation. If the person turns their body before the club starts moving down the club (mass) will flatten towards 90 degrees to the axis (body). This is simple physics. If you turn an axis mass will swing at 90 degrees 100% of the time. If they to rotate the lower body first the upper body will tilt back thus creating path from the inside. Couple this with the wrists that are not releasing and the shot is dead straight of drawing slightly from a square alignment. Here is the first video explaining it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4vz9q0wff0 NOTE: For the Bashers out there: Before you bash my method maybe you should come and watch me in action or know something about what I teach and how I teach it. The invitation is there. Or read some of the comments from 10's of thousands of people who I have helped on some of the sites I have posted video tips on. It's funny but you try to help people and inevitably you get people out there who (have not taught thousands of lessons or helped 10's of thousands of people) bashing you.

iacas, I was replying to someone who watched my cure your slice videos on youtube. He said he tried it and was coming over the top. I was explaining to him why this was.