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  2. So you think I have a fast looking golf swing? That's a first.
  3. This one is for all the doubters out there:
  4. Erik, Quote: I think Joe probably lost interest after being sloughed off by Paul. Winter appears to be a great time to give lessons in Las Vegas. Heck, the schools we've taught in Las Vegas have been during the winter. Winter is not the greatest time to teach in Vegas. I can only teach people who want to come out for lessons. 99.9% of my students come in from all over the world. Would you like to book a trip to Vegas taking a chance that the weather is not going to be 45 degrees and howling wind? People want to come here when the weather is guaranteed to be warmer. I never sloughed anyone off. I don't sit here all day waiting to reply to people. When I have time I check this site. Your messages go to my spam folder. If I catch them and have time to answer I will. To answer your question, TrackmanMaestro did call. He said he was going to come out and never did. The offer still stands. --------------------------------------------------- Quote: I have two degrees in sciences. I get the physics of the golf swing. That doesn't mean I'm going to base what I teach on what a machine that can be built (without legs, arms, eyes, muscles, etc.) and programmed to do ANYTHING does to hit a golf ball. It does mean I'm going to teach a golf swing to someone that uses and is based on the physics of the world in which we live. It does mean that I can explain the physics behind what I teach. Surely Paul can do the same, no? I do not have a degree in the sciences but I get the physics behind it. 99.9% of golfer's do not have science degrees either. Instead of wowing people with my knowledge, why not explain it to them in a way they can understand and gets results? I think this would be more productive. I do have plenty of rocket scientists that have my products. Engineers seem to love my method cause they finally see it and get it. Am I going to talk to them on their level? Probably not. What I am going to do is explain it in a way that they can figure it out in their own mind. --------------------------------------------------- Quote: If Paul is willing to engage in meaningful conversation here, there's little need to spend the money and take the time to watch him teach I am willing to engage in meaningful conversation. It just seems you are forming an opinion of my technique before you even know what I teach. Why not just ask the question civilly instead of ... things like: "there is no way this can happen" ... "it can't do that" ... etc. etc. I have heard all of this before when I used to post on the Golf Channel discussion board. They would doubt my method and say it doesn't work. Instead of arguing with them I just kept teaching. I have the proof that my method works by selling over 80,000 copies of Swing Machine Golf, the tens of thousands of comments people made on Revolution Golf site beneath my tips, all the YouTube comments, and the thousands of testimonials people have emailed me. If you doubt it works just come out and watch me. If you are willing to make the same offer just let me know when you are doing a school in Vegas (or maybe San Diego) and I will come and watch you so I can learn more about what you are teaching.
  5. Erik, I see the golf swing differently that others. My technique was not always based on the machine. For the first 8 years, I taught people to look like pros when they swung. I knew what Iron Byron was back then but never gave it a second thought. In 1999, the internet was gaining popularity so I went online and found True Temper's website. On it I saw a looping video of the Iron Byron. To me, it looked like a golfer as it kept swinging the club. After making this realization, I grabbed my golf digest magazines and opened up the swing sequences of various pros. I freeze framed the Iron Byron and compared them side by side. Every pro I put beside the machine matched up with the machine frame by frame. Here are a couple of examples: Tiger Woods Swing Sequence vs. Iron Byron Ernie Els Swing Sequence vs. Iron Byron After seeing this, I decided to analyze the machine. The machine hit the ball 100% consistently whereas pros were only about 70%. To me the machine looked simple yet it got perfect results. So why not at least look at it? In looking at it I realized it only had 3 elements that allowed it to hit perfect shots: 1. Circular Rotation 2. An Unrestricted Hinge 3. A Constant Forward Tilt These are the elements I teach in Swing Machine Golf. I want to make it simple for people to understand and to get great results. From the thousands of testimonials I have received I think what I am teaching is working. Whoever wants to come out and watch me teach is more than welcome to do so. Just let me know. Here is what the inventor of Iron Byron, George Manning has to say about how he invented the machine: I answered most of these questions in my very first post. Here are the answers to your questions again: It doesn't have legs: ANSWER: The motor represents the golfers legs It doesn't have a weight shift: ANSWER: it is a machine designed to test golf clubs. It doesn't need to have a weight shift. The golfer shifts their weight to power their swing. so how much weight is on the left foot at impact ? ANSWER: 70-90% It swings on plane: ANSWER: yes, it swings on plane. It replicates Bryon Nelson's downswing. it doesn't have wrists: ANSWER: yes it has a hinge at the end of the arm which represents the golfer's wrists. a poor grip: ANSWER: the club is held in a sleeve representing the golfer grip. bad alignment: it aligns wherever they align the machine for what shot they want it to hit. I don't see how this is bad alignment. Paul Wilson
  6. You did not read my reply. I said if they do my "Touch the Legs Position" the weight would have to shift. Again, you do not know my method and you are assuming you do not want me to have people shift their weight. To clarify again, the student cannot get to my "Touch Legs Legs Position" unless they shift their weight. By turning and getting to my Touch the Legs Position their weight will shift on its own. Can we now put this to rest.
  7. We do not teach the same thing. Someone showed me Mike Bender's book a while ago. I reviewed it and we are not on the same page. Keep in mind I had the inventor of Iron Byron (George Manning) standing right in front of me backing up everything I teach in my DVD series. I have also bee using Iron Byron in my teaching since 1999. I actually took lessons from Mike Bender many years ago in Orlando. This was back when his teaching was teaching based on Mac O'Grady's research. Weight Shift For those that do not understand how the weight will shift if you just turn your hips here is how it happens: The weight shifts automatically because getting to my "Touch the Legs" position into the follow through requires you to shift your weight. It is impossible to get to this position if you do not shift your weight. So, I know the weight shift will happen if you hit my position so why would I tell you to shift your weight? From the top of the backswing to impact is approx. 1/4 of a second. In this time, I need you to be thinking about turning (knowing the weight will automatically shift). If the arms are powerless (like they are in Iron Byron) the mass (club) will move towards 90 degrees to the axis (body) thus flattening the plane in the downswing allowing the club to swing out at the ball. Conclusion People need to know my whole technique. Hearing bits and pieces or thinking they know what I teach does not give people the whole picture so you are left wondering how this and that occurs. I don't really teach anything bizarre or out of the ordinary it is how I put it together and explain it that differs from other teachers. Anyone and everyone is more than welcome to come and watch me teach. FYI I really do not have time to be posting a lot so I may jump in when I have time.
  8. Trackman Maestro, I have always said the shift will occur to the left because you cannot get onto the tip of the back tip without the weight shifting. If the shift will occur why think about it? From the top of the backswing you have 1/4 of a second to impact. If you are thinking "shift" when are you thinking "turn"? If you think turn knowing full well the shift will occur you kill 2 birds with one stone. If you solely think shift, you run the risk of shifting too much. The more you shift laterally, the more your upper body tilts back int he downswing. The more tilt, the more the path swings out at the ball. If you tight the wrists with a severe inside/out path you block it or push fade it. If you flip it you duck hook it. There is lateral in the golf swing. If there was no lateral you would be totally stuck on the back foot as you come down. I am saying the lateral will happen on its own if you get to the tip of the back toe.
  9. JD924, Here is your first post to me: Quote: I think it's pretty clear Mr.Wilson doesn't know the real ball flight laws. I remember watching him make a video saying to not slide and how terrible it was. Something we know is flat out incorrect. First, this is insulting. Next, you are bashing me without know anything about me or what I teach. How would you feel if someone said this to you about what you do?
  10. Phil McGleno, Did I say the knee was locked at impact? NO. I said I want them thinking of an arrow on the back of the knee going back instead of thinking about a lateral shift or they can put a shaft a few inches off the hip and miss the shaft. So don't mistake what I am saying. I like the left leg locked once the lead arm is parallel to the ground in the through swing but the person has to start making this move from the top of the backswing as soon as they start down. This means it is still bent at impact. I also like the person to end up on the tip of the back toe. If this occurs the weight had to shift. So you can get the weight shifting laterally without having to think about it. Some people like teaching a lateral shift. I do not.
  11. JD924, No one asked me to address a slide. You said you watched one of my videos and it was terrible so why would I tell you it again? If you need help with something just ask instead of bashing me. Although you may not like my technique maybe I can provide some information that can help your golf swing. If you need it again, here is my cure: From the top of the backswing you need to be thinking about the left knee. It needs to be moving straight back as you start the downswing. I get people to imagine and arrow on the back of this knee and forcing it straight back or to put a shaft in the ground about 3-4 inches off the left hip. As you come down you miss the shaft with the left hip. So you are not thinking shift to start down. You are thinking "turn." The shift will occur if you end up on the tip of the back toe without even thinking about it. If done properly the left knee will have gone back locking this leg at the end of the swing. I like the right leg to have come around and is physically touching the left leg into the follow through. This provides feedback telling the person they have done the position correctly. If the legs are not touching the stance usually is too wide, they are not shifting their weight and/or the are shifting too much. Curing a slide is definitely tricky. It took me 2 months back when I was about 18. Back in the day I was told to shift to start the downswing. The more lateral shift you have the more it tilts your upper body to the right in the downswing. This creates the path too much from the inside. If the face is square to this path the ball will push. If it is open it will push/fade and if it is too closed it will duck hook.
  12. TrackmanMaestro, It is winter here right now so lessons are spotty. Once it gets into March I should be in full swing. Just shoot me an email. You will find this on my website: http://www.paulwilsongolf.com/ so we can make arrangements. I am at Bear's Best Las Vegas.
  13. MVMAC, Yes, the reason is the going that way creates an extra step. When you have someone roll the wrists early they will come over the top. If you cure the path first then they come over the top you have to fix the path again. So you fix the spin first then the path second. All the best,
  14. MVMAC, The logic is this: If you are slicing the ball the face is open to the path. I want the person to first get the face closed to the path. I do so by getting them to manually roll the wrists over as soon as they start the downswing. This is because from the top of the swing to impact is approx. 1/4 of a second. If you try to get the person to roll the wrists closer to impact you may get the person to square they face but it will not hook (they will hit it straight left which is not enough). This is very important that the person hooks the ball because a few minutes after they hook the ball you are going to take their mind off rolling the wrists. If you do and they are not rolling it over enough they will go back to slicing it again. If you get them to overdo the roll over they get used to the feeling of rolling the wrists very quickly and can still do it even without thinking about it whereas in the past the face is always open. Now once they can hook about 10 shots or so in a row I then change the thought to the body rotation. If the person turns their body before the club starts moving down the club (mass) will flatten towards 90 degrees to the axis (body). This is simple physics. If you turn an axis mass will swing at 90 degrees 100% of the time. If they to rotate the lower body first the upper body will tilt back thus creating path from the inside. Couple this with the wrists that are not releasing and the shot is dead straight of drawing slightly from a square alignment. Here is the first video explaining it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4vz9q0wff0 NOTE: For the Bashers out there: Before you bash my method maybe you should come and watch me in action or know something about what I teach and how I teach it. The invitation is there. Or read some of the comments from 10's of thousands of people who I have helped on some of the sites I have posted video tips on. It's funny but you try to help people and inevitably you get people out there who (have not taught thousands of lessons or helped 10's of thousands of people) bashing you.
  15. iacas, I was replying to someone who watched my cure your slice videos on youtube. He said he tried it and was coming over the top. I was explaining to him why this was.
  16. jd924, I am well aware of the new ball flight laws versus the old. My slice sure works exceptionally well with my record being 1 minute 56 seconds from the time I shook the person's hand. I am not talking about a pull hook either. The person was hitting a perfect draw from square alignment. Oh I also shot a cure your slice session in my virtual golf school. Out of 9 people (who I never met) the fastest I cured a slice in was 2 minutes and 3 seconds and the longest was 13 min. Again, perfect draws or straight shots from square alignment. All on video. I think I will keep doing what I am doing.
  17. Iacas, Because you are working on the spin first. Then the direction. Fix one thing then work on the other. Fixing the spin can take 2 mins or two weeks it just depends how fast the person gets it. Once this is fixed you work on the body to fix the direction.
  18. You should be swinging over the top if you are working on the first part of curing your slice. In doing so you are just working on turning your wrists over way sooner than you ever have before. Think about it. If you are slicing it the face is open. I want it closed. If you are closing it you are no longer a slicer. To do this you roll it from the top for a while until you are consistently hooking it. Once you can do this you switch your focus to the lower body to initiate the downswing. Once you do the club will swing on plane and you will be hitting it dead straight. So, roll from the top and get it hooking. Forget about seeing good shots. A good shot is a big hook. A bad shot is one going straight or right. Once you can do this consistently, you then forget the rolling wrists and focus on using your legs and hips (turning) to start the downswing. If they start first you will be on plane and you will hit it dead straight. All the best, Paul Wilson
  19. Pharoah, I'm glad you have improved with Swing Machine Golf. I truly appreciate all the positive feedback I have received over the years. In reading your response I figured I would clear up a things so you can understand how the human golf swing compares to Iron Byron a little better. I have marked your comments in blue with my comments underneath. Before we get to my comments you need to first remember that the Iron Byron was modeled after the downswing of Byron Nelson (one of the best golfers of all time). They did not pick it out of thin air. So comparing the Iron Byron to a human golf should be quite easy. If they did not use his swing as the model I most likely would not be using it in my teaching. That being said, my comments are below: Now, having said that, and being a bit more clued up on the golf swing, there are a number of things bothering me about his method and how it relates to the machine. Obviously, Paul Wilson had to work hard at adapting this method to humans as the machine doesn't have a back-swing (starts at the top), I did not work hard at all. As I said above, Iron Byron was modeled after a real golfer. To understand it myself, I watched Iron Byron swinging. I did not see it as a bunch of nuts and bolts. I saw it as a golfer. Once I saw it as a golfer I imagined I was the machine and did 3 practice swings. I then hit a ball with this very same feeling. When I did, I immediately went from hitting it off the planet to incredibly straight. It really was that simple for me. In shooting my DVDs, I actually flew in the inventor of the Iron Byron, George Manning and he confirmed that the 3 elements I teach are the 3 elements found in the Iron Byron machine. The Iron Byron starts at the top of the backswing because there was no need for it to do a backswing. Remember it was used to test golf clubs and golf balls so the backswing did not matter. I, of course, teach people how to get to the top from the set up position. has only one arm (it's the left arm coming down, the right arm on the follow through) This is true it does only have one arm and it represents the golfer's left arm coming down and through impact then it represents the golfer's right arm after impact. If the left arm of the golfer is extended coming down and through then the right arm is extended to the 3/4 through point the diameter of the golf swing is maintained just like the swing 1 arm of the machine maintains the diameter of its swing. So basically, I am concerned about maintaining the diameter of one's swing. In other words if you "chicken wing" it you are not copying the machine. If at least one arm is extended throughout most of the swing you are maintaining the diameter of your swing. Therefore you will become more consistent and you will generate more clubhead speed. and has no weight shift...wait a minute!! That sounds very familiar doesn't it?! You are right the machine does not have a weight shift. It does however have a motor that represents the golfer's legs. When you shift your weight back and forward this is helping to turn your upper body which represents the driveshaft of the machine. I actually do say that you DO NOT have to shift your weight. You WANT to shift your weight because if you do you will be able to turn your upper body faster than if you did not use them at all. Feel free to disagree with me here but every competitive longer driver I have every seen shifts their weight in their golf swing. Personally, when I incorporate a weight shift I hit the ball farther too. So I will continue to do and teach a weight shift. Strangely enough, Paul doesn't advocate no weight shift but quite the opposite, stating that the machine has only one leg and we have two and that's why we have to move off of the ball in the backswing (head goes backwards away from the target). You have misunderstood this part of the machine and my explanation. The motor of the machine represents the golfer's legs not the legs on the machine. The machine has 1 axis (driveshaft) we have 2 which I will now explain: When the machine swings it does so by turning its driveshaft. This driveshaft turns in a perfect circle. Our torso represents this driveshaft. It turns too. The difference is we have 2 legs. If you were standing on 1 leg you would have 1 axis as you turned around. If you turned around this leg you would create a perfect circle. The problem is that it is very difficult to swing from 1 leg in balance so you put the other leg down. As soon as you put your other leg on the ground you now have 2 bottoms (legs) and 1 top (torso and head) to an axis. In order to create circular rotation you need an axis to turn around. If you start the rotation of your shoulders in a circular motion in a golf swing you will see that your head will move slightly to the right (on its own) because it is creating an axis to turn around. Don't believe me? Stand up > face a mirror with a club on the back of your neck > turn the club like the blades on a helicopter. If you do you will see your head move to the right on its own 100% of the time. If you turn the club the other way you will see your head move to the left all on its own to create a second axis to complete the rotation. So your head will move right and left to create 2 axis to swing around. This means a human golf swing in not a perfect circle. Therefore humans will not be able to create a 100% repeatable golf swing. The machine even stops swinging the club quickly a la S&T; (whip effect) yet Paul talks about the club having to finish touching the back of your head. The machine applies brake pressure long after the ball is hit to slow the club down and not snap the shaft off into the ceiling (which is what it used to do when it had no brakes). While shooting the Iron Byron I grabbed it's arm and swung it back and forth. In doing so I found that the clubface works from open coming down to impact, then it squares then it closes after impact. It does not work from open to square holding this square position by swinging to the left as in S&T.; It is this unrestricted whipping action that generates the majority of clubhead speed in Iron Byron. The rest of the power comes from the rotation of the driveshaft. After all, it's arm has to be connected to something. You do not understand my logic about the club touching the back of your head. When the club touches the back of your head it needs to be exactly parallel to your ears. Parallel is 90 degrees to your body (axis). Mass swings its fastest at 90 degrees to the axis (simple physics). If the club is touching your head you can feel if it is in this position or not. This means you do not need a pro to tell you if it is in the correct position you can check it on your own because you can feel it touching your head. Plus, if it is parallel today and parallel 5 years from now it is in the exact same position. In other words this position will never fall apart. If you doubt his position just freeze frame some pros doing a full swing from the down the line view. If you do you will see that their club does hit 90 degrees to their body at some point in the follow through. You just have to catch the right frame. If they are doing it and you are doing it you are copying what a pro is doing which is a good thing. Paul also explains that torque (X factor stuff) generates power and accuracy in the swing, however the machine isn't creating any torque whatsoever. I never said the machine did create this kind of torque. I want golfers to base their swings on coiling and uncoiling so they can be consistent. Torque repeats 100% of the time in life. If you coil something up, 100% of the time it will snap back the other way. If you coil your shoulders up then uncoil your lower body the upper body will snap back the other way even faster. So as I said, I want the golfer to base their swing on something that is consistent instead of them just whacking at the ball with their arms. So I am basing the swing on coiling and uncoiling not just hitting with the arms. There are other little things like that make me go hmmm. I'd love to know somebody else's opinion on this as I feel that S&T; swing is much closer to the machine than the Swing Machine Golf method! I do not see the relation ship between S&T; and the Iron Byron at all. 1. As I said earlier, if you turn your shoulders in a circular motion your head will move to the right on its own. If you keep your head dead still your shoulders will see-saw as you go back. In the video on their site you can see the teacher push the shoulders down as the student takes the club back. I teach a circular motion of the shoulders not a downward motion because the driveshaft of Iron Byron is turning in a circular motion. 2. If in S&T; you were truly swinging around one axis from keeping the weight on your left leg you would not take a divot with a S&T; golf swing. Think about it. Iron Byron sets up to the ball in a fixed position. If you measure the distance of the arm to the end of the club it is at ground level. It then swings around one axis. Because this distance is fixed and the angle of its axis never changes it does not take a divot. In a human golf swing, a divot is created because your body is tilted more to the right through impact than it was at set up. Because of this tilt the club hits the ball first (descending) then enters the ground. So although S&T; wants your head overtop of the ball going back they want you to shift laterally on the way down which tilts the upper body to the right and the divot it taken. In a S&T; swing this spine tilt is seen through impact and in the finish position where they have the golfer leaning backwards. Again if the golfer was truly swinging around a perfect axis there would be no spine tilt at all in the golf swing. The spine would be perfectly vertical in the finish position. So there is lateral movement in a S&T; swing as well. 3. Finally, they want you to swing left on the way through. The machine allows its arm to swing freely. Whatever it does coming down to impact is perfectly replicated on the other side. It does not swing left as they teach so this is not what Iron Byron is doing at all. Although I don't hit it as well with Swing Machine Golf I find my misses are more playable. After a few rounds of poor S&T;, I inevitably return to Swing Machine Golf to gain some much needed confidence. You are not alone. I have tons of emails from people who have returned to Swing Machine Golf after trying other methods. I think you need to understand SMG a little better. You need to base your swing on torque and forces because they repeat 100% of the time in life. If you do you will hit the ball better than you could ever imagine. All the best, Paul Wilson Creator - Swing Machine Golf Director - Paul Wilson Golf School Bear's Best Las Vegas
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