Cabernet

Got it. Thanks again Iacas.

Sorry, one last question - does the initial ball launch direction equal the clubface angle at impact? Or the swing path angle at impact? Or maybe half way between?

Thanks again Zeph. I'm pretty anal about the set up being on target. So, I'll work on it. By the way. . . nice graphics! Maybe the S&T; guys would hire you as their illustrator for their next book?

Zeph & Iacas - Excellent info. . .and makes total sense. I realize now that, for my standard push draw, I actually set up with the clubface square to target but my clubface is probably 2 degrees open at impact - So, I may have some refining to do there. But I understand what I need to work on with the push-fade and getting a feel for the degrees. Great stuff - THANKS TONS!!! By the way, where did the graphic come from?

Interesting Iacas - so, you're actually doing mental math with degrees estimates when you are playing a shot on the course. So, I need to get the feel for degrees when setting up - I'll figure it out. Understanding the standard +4 path will help. I wasn't able to play this weekend but willl work on your approach at the range this week. Thanks tons!

Thanks for the explaination Iacas. I am a new S&T; proponent (about a year now) and striking it great. But have some confusion on working the ball. To hit an intentional fade, I was under the wrong impression that S&T; promoted a pull fade until I read your response (per the CD's). So I need a little clarificaton. To hit an intentional fade, 1) set up left of target 2) ball position the same relative to my stance 3) grip with an open clubface 4) swing normal. If this is true, I have a couple questions please. 1. Why wouldn't you play the ball back farther to counter for the increase in loft for opening the club? Wouldn't you hit higher and loose more distance? and 2) What is your geometric process for set up relative to the target? Where is your club pointing relative to the target at address? Can you step me through your approach? Thanks for you insight!!!