Jonnyy8699

Will do, I have my first round of the season tomorrow. I'll be playing 4 rounds this week so I'll post my thoughts on friday or this weekend.

Well it's kind of a crazy story, but today I dropped by golfsmith just to check out their used section before I bout the CB1's on ebay. My swing coach knows the guys there and told me to tell them that he sent me, so I get there and tell them that, I give them my specs, and they bring me to the used rack. I instantly spot a set of CB1's just like the ones on ebay. 4-pw. So I take them down, and they are the KBS tour 90's, just like the ebay set. Wow, I just found the exact set of clubs I was looking at and I don't have to have them shipped so I can get them immediately, when before they weren't going to get here till march 3rd at the earliest, which is the first day of my golf season, and I would still have to do a bunch of adjusting with the length and lie. Problem is, these are $300, and the ebay set bidding was only at $120. But me and the guy helping me out headed over to the launch monitors anyway, with 3 irons from this set and 3 from my set. I hit them for quite a while, hitting long, mid, and short irons from both my set and the CB1's comparing numbers and feel. But about 5 minutes into hitting, I asked the guy helping me out if they were standard length and lie, assuming to hear yes. He said that the irons actually belonged to one of the employees there, and he was in the back. He went and got him, and turns out, they were bent 3* upright and lengthened half an inch. And the CB1 stock 6 iron shaft is originally 37.5" actually, which made the 6 iron 38", my exact spec. And the stock lie is 61.75*, and he bent them 3* which made them 64.75*, plus the added half an inch which adds 1* so 65.75*, only .25* off of my spec, which was 66*. (I was told today that it is actually 1 degree for every HALF inch added to the length. I've heard it 3 ways now, so anyone that knows FOR SURE let me know what it actually is.) So basically these irons were made for me. And the guy said he would give me 10% off so I can get them for $270. Picking them up tomorrow. The only thing I will do probably is replace the grips, because they are decently worn, still usable but I was fitted for midsize grips and these are standard. So moral of the story, it IS possible to get irons for your exact specs for under $300! P.S. The ebay irons sold for only $137 +20 for shipping, so I miiiight have been able to do it a bit cheaper if I bought those by doing the gripping myself and helping my pro out with the bending and lengthening, but also I would not have had them in time for my golf season. And it would have taken quite a few man hours. So overall, I'm pretty happy with these.

Thank you Desmond for the code, although I think I've found my set. (And guys, like I said earlier, offset was the least of my worries out of all the criteria. But thanks for the info on the G series, they always looked like they had a ton of offset at address to me for some reason.) Anyway, this is the set I am going for most likely. What do you guys think? I sent all those links to the guy that fit me and he recommended these, and they seem good to me. http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adams-CB1-Pro-Black-Forged-4-PW-KBS-Stiff-/231162973927?pt=Golf_Clubs&hash;=item35d2630ee7#shpCntId I like the look of the CB1 head a lot. The dark finish just looks super nice. And I am thinking about doing a red paintfill job on them, which I think would look pretty cool. It is definitely a players iron, which I am looking forward to because I've been playing RAC OS's, which are pretty intense GI clubs. I am not too worried about the difference in forgiveness and such, because my ballstriking has recently improved drastically thanks to some off season rebuilding. Then the shaft, which is a KBS tour 90 Stiff. Seems like the perfect shaft for me. The pro that fit me said to get a light shaft with a low kick point for high trajectory. This shaft is 102g with a high trajectory and high spin, and all the reviews I can find on it are amazing. I am a little worried it might not be stiff enough, because I am sure it is not as stiff as a normal weighted stiff KBS tour. I haven't measured my swing speed in a long time but my 7 iron is my 165 club in the summer. And that was with very ill-fitting clubs. I was playing the Taylormade RAC OS irons with a regular shaft and standard length and lie. These clubs will be a drastic improvement. Should I be worried about the stiffness? Anyway, once I get these clubs I will have to take the grips off, extend them by an inch, regrip them, and bend them 3.25* upright. It would be 4.25*, but the extra inch adds a degree. The extending, if I have it done by a shop in my area, should cost 8 bucks a club, $56. Then the new grips will cost around $60. I can install those myself. Hopefully my teaching pro will just show me the ropes to bending and help me do it for free, or maybe I'll just pay someone at our club to do it. So after I buy the clubs, I will spend around $110-150. The irons on ebay are currently at like $100, so they can go as high as $300 and I won't break my price range. Hopefully they stay low though haha. EDIT:Whoops, got that wrong about the extending 1 inch part. Turns out the CB1 6 iron is already 37.5", so I will only be extending by half an inch. Which means I will be bending them 3.75*.

Well first of all I never associated ALL ping irons with a large amount of offset, I just know that some ping sets, especially the G series, have a lot of offset. And also, I even posted a set of I15's on this thread, so obviously I know they are irons I can play. And also, I realize 300 for a set I need is slightly unrealistic. I said that, exactly that way, in the original post. I also said I was thinking around 450. But thank you for s***ing all over this thread with you're pessimistic and elitist views. [quote name="Mr. Desmond" url="/t/72689/got-fitted-now-to-find-irons-that-will-work-but-not-break-the-bank#post_954347"]Well, I've got to question the knowledge if you're not getting Pings because of GI offset. Not all Pings have a lot of offset -- just like all Callaways don't have a lot of offset. PGA Touring Pros play Ping models that do not have a lot of offset. But good luck to you. Spending $300 for a custom set that actually is consistent between clubs and to spec is impossible. [/quote]

Ok so I found a bunch of sets that might work. Almost all of them will require adjustments, but most of them are cheap enough to where I can pay for those adjustments and still be in my price range. Let me know what you guys think. All of these are forged I believe besides the last one, so I can bend all of them. Most of them are cheap enough so I can lengthen them and not worry about breaking my price range. Also, be sure to remember when I lengthen it by an inch, it automatically adds 1 degree to the lie angle, so really if it was standard, I would only have to bend it 3 or 4 degrees instead of 4 or 5. http://www.2ndswing.com/p-225467-callaway-x-forged-iron-set-4-pw-project-x-flighted-6-0-steel-stiff-right-38-in.aspx#details http://www.2ndswing.com/p-197352-callaway-x-forged-iron-set-4-pw-steel-stiff-right-38-25-in.aspx http://www.ebay.com/itm/TITLEIST-AP2-FORGED-5-PW-GW-IRONS-IRONS-SET-w-DG-HL-S300-Steel-STIFF-/351003347885?pt=Golf_Clubs&hash;=item51b96e0bad http://www.ebay.com/itm/CUSTOM-NIKE-GOLF-CLUBS-VR-FORGED-AND-CAVITY-BACK-IRON-SET-STIFF-FLEX-SHAFTS-/370975532465?pt=Golf_Clubs&hash;=item565fdd65b1 http://www.ebay.com/itm/TAYLOR-MADE-2011-TOUR-PREFERRED-MC-FORGED-5-PW-IRONS-IRON-SET-w-Project-X-5-5-/331134629815?pt=Golf_Clubs&hash;=item4d192977b7 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Adams-CB1-Pro-Black-Forged-4-PW-KBS-Stiff-/231162973927?pt=Golf_Clubs&hash;=item35d2630ee7 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Callaway-X-Forged-2009-Iron-set-3-PW-RH-Stiff-shaft-/151238350533?pt=Golf_Clubs&hash;=item23368216c5 http://www.ebay.com/itm/Ping-i15-Iron-Set-4-PW-Steel-Stiff-Left-39-25-Silver-Dot-/350986251533?pt=Golf_Clubs&hash;=item51b8692d0d (this set was the only one where it was actually TOO long and TOO upright, but I'm not sure exactly what the lie is. It was lengthened by 1.5 inches, and they are silver dot ping irons which means they are 3.75 degrees upright. But, does the added length add to the lie also? So it was 3.75 upright with the silver dot, then since you add 1 degree for every inch of extra length, is it really 5.25 upright? So what would my lie be if I cut these down by half an inch? Can my pro bend these irons for me? Because I'm pretty sure they aren't forged, but I thought I remembered someone saying you can bend pings.)

Wow thank you, that definitely helps. And also the a little bit of offset is perfect. He told me not to get a lot of offset, but he said also that a club with absolutely zero offset might be a little tough. And that is probably the aspect I am least concerned about.

Well I was hoping for a 4-AW set actually, because that is what fits in my bag, but 4-PW would probably work because I only take full swings with my AW about half the time. And I am 6'4", and I don't know my wingspan exactly but I have pretty long arms. He didn't fit me based on measurements though, he just used tape on my club, and gave me different lie angles until the mark on the tape was in the middle of the club. And yes I was hoping for a used set with roughly those specs, and my pro said that if I got a forged set that wasn't already bent flat at all, he could get it to 4-5 degrees upright. Oh and I forgot to mention I need midsize grips. But that is also fixable if the set doesn't come with them.

So I got fitted yesterday by a teaching pro at my course. We went through the normal stuff, trying different heads, shafts, lengths, lies, all that stuff. So my results are as follows. For a 6 iron -38 inches in length -66° lie -stiff -light weight shaft (110g was best weight for me) -low deflection shaft -some offset (he said I shouldn't be going GI offset like pings or anything, but I need a little bit) The irons that I had priced out and was ready to buy, were some rocketbladez tours for $300. Turns out, those won't work. As I'm not exactly an "off the rack" kinda guy. So I'm looking to find a decently cheap set of irons with these specs. If they are forged, I can bend them myself to the lie I need. As for the length, I would rather not spend the money to get all the irons lengthened and then buy all new grips and they install all of them, but if the set is otherwise perfect I'd be find with that. Stiff is a must. The shaft I am hoping to stick to fairly closely, obviously it doesn't have to be exactly 110g but just ballpark. And the offset is also fairly flexible. So if anyone has a set like this, knows a guy with a set, knows where I can find a set, knows how to find it cheap, anything, please post. My price range is hopefully anything under 450. $300 is ideal, but that pretty unrealistic I suppose haha. I will be scouring the internet and calling pro shops and stuff, but if anyone here has anything that would help me, it would be much appreciated. Thank you!

Well these were the irons I was going to purchase from my pro, but I got fit yesterday just to make sure they were ok for me to use, and turns out they are completely wrong for me haha. I will be making a new thread on my fitting results and how I should go about getting new irons based on those results. I'll post the link here. EDIT: Here is the link! http://thesandtrap.com/t/72689/got-fitted-now-to-find-irons-that-will-work-but-not-break-the-bank

I've seen a paintfill for the regular rocketbladez irons, but they have a little cavity where the yellow is. Unlike the tour version, which is pretty much flat. As you can see in this picture. So anyone with paintfilling experience, is this a doable job? I'd really like to fill it in red. I'm not a huge fan of the yellow, and red would match pretty much all my other gear. Thanks guys.

bump... haha seriously any experience with winter gloves would be appreciated.

Oh ok that makes sense, I guess my point mainly is that watching the video, you can see how stiff his arms are, which usually leads to manipulating the face angle throughout rather than letting the natural motion of your arms dictate it. It makes sense that A2 in that video is ok, but I have a feeling if he let his arms relax a bit more, the face angle would improve dramatically.

Maybe you misunderstood me, if you look at this screenshot, his face is much too closed at A2 (shaft horizontal). The toe of the club should be pointing directly upward at this position, which helps with natural face angle transition instead of manipulating it like he is doing in that video. But it sounds like you fixed a majority of your problems Jimbo, it'd be great to see a video of the new swing.

I live in Oregon, and sometime I may be golfing in 35 degree weather, while it is raining. So I know footjoy has the wintersof and rainsof gloves, so I would love to use the wintersof for the cold, but will they also work in the rain? Has anyone used them in the rain before? Also I know mizuno makes the Thermagrip gloves, that supposedly work in rain, but are they the best gloves? And I would like to be able to try the gloves on before I buy them, so hopefully they are carried at golfsmith or some sort of retailer, but if not I can probably figure it out. For reference I wear a Nike Medium-Large glove and it fits perfectly. Thanks guys

Yeah today I played a round and shot a decent score, but my ball striking was not very good at all. Basically what kept me alive is my drives being in the fairway most of the time and my wedge play. I tried ascending the clubhead a little faster on the take away but it felt like I was taking it a little to far outside, but it also gave a nice feeling of dropping the club into that "slot" on the downswing to keep me from coming over the top, which I'm sure happened a few times but that was just the feel. I was mainly focusing on taking the club head up faster and keeping my head from dipping in the backswing, but it seems to result in a lot of thin shots. Any idea as to why that would be?

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Can anyone help? I'd appreciate it.

UPDATE I figured I'd do this info again since it's been a while. I've been Playing Golf for: 2 years My current handicap index or average score is: 14.9 My typical ball flight is: fade, though inconsistant The shot I hate or the "miss" I'm trying to reduce/eliminate is: inconsistency in ball flight So I think I've gotten a decent swing worked out, but it seems like every day is a new ball flight. Most days my typical misses are slightly right and a few waaay left, some days it's the opposite, sometimes my distances are just a lot shorter than normal, and sometimes balls are only going left. I start my golf season February 11th and I need some help to gain consistency. Most days I am fading it, but when I think about key swing points like releasing properly or not coming out to in I can deal with it, which is the only way I am shooting a decent score, but I need to be able to have a swing I can trust, not one that can be doing anything at any given point in time. So here are my videos from today at the range, today everything was fading, most not too bad at all. But a few big misses. Also not a lot of distance. Any advice? 6 Iron: http://swingreader.com/video/view/YAgDpnZi/driver Driver: http://swingreader.com/video/view/3IWwGTgo/driver

Ok and I just went today and it was a lot better, I was hitting it left and right, but not severe at all, and if it was a fade, I could fix it and either hit it straight or a draw, but I spend most of the time bouncing between a fade and a draw. So what is so much better about this swing than the one right before it? http://swingreader.com/video/view/B7HyoA1m/driver

ok my shots are so inconstant im not even sure how to classify them... most of the time its a slice I guess, and when I don't slice it, it's a dead pull. There are also a handful of every other sort of miss imaginable every trip to the range. Help. http://swingreader.com/video/view/XftUiR2F/driver

Ok I'll work on that next time I go to the range and post a video. What does that improve? Just ballstriking in general? Maybe increase my launch angle?

Anyone?

Well when I click on the link it's pretty good, I can see the entire swing pretty smoothly. It was filmed with an Iphone, but they still usually have decent slow mo. Definitely more than 5 frame for me though haha.

Oh and also these were some numbers from the launch monitor today, hitting the Bridgestone B330-RX (there was a ball fitting today at my local range) Club head speed:105.7 Ball speed:138.7 Launch angle:7.4 Back spin:2423 Side spin:-40 (that's a draw right?) Distance:229 yards. This is an average of 5 swings I believe. According to the "ideal" section, my launch angle is about 4 degrees lower than it should be, back spin is almost perfect, a little high, side spin obviously ideally would be 0, and with my swing speed the ideal ball speed and distance should be 156.4 mp/h and 273 yards.