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Anybody have any thoughts or experience with this new putter? The weighting concepts seems completely different than anything else that has been done.

Since this kind of turned into an Aimoint thread - Does anyone out there use Aimpoint with the Contour lines? I'm curious as to how accurate the Contour lines can be used to determine the Zero line.

No, not while they play but thats how they chart greens. Most people serious about Aimpoint already have this stuff figured out before they play. There a A LOT of caddie's carrying them around in the practice rounds too.

It definitely isn't magic and in my opinion if someone claims that it is then they are probably trying to sell something. I don't think the OP was trying to claim it's magic. I only have a basic understanding of aimpoint but I have spent time with Mark. I don't see how anyone could possible calculate the slope by using their feet like someone here has claimed and that's not how it was explained to me by Mark. If they could then why does everyone using aimpoint carry around a digital level. Maybe you can get close but so say this putt in on a 2% slope instead of 3% or 1% because they felt it in their feet is kind of ridiculous. The feet help you find the zero line, fall line, uphill direction, or whatever else you call it...atleast that how it taught to me. In my opinion, the real advantage of Aimpoint comes if you play the same courses a lot and have time to map out the greens prior to playing. You can map out the slope percentages in different sections of the green, the zero line angles, and you would need to figure out the speed of the greens. It is a lot of work to do it correctly but if you have all that then you can calculate the break within seconds of looking at your chart. If I played the same courses or was a member at a club then there is no doubt I would have every green mapped out and use aimpoint on every putt. You would be crazy not too...it's almost like cheating. If you don't have it mapped out prior to playing its pretty difficult and slows everything down on anything other than a planar (flat but tilted)putt.

Thats not really how it works. You should have the slope measured with the something like a digital level. You should know what the typical speed is at the course you play. You use the feet to help you find the zero line. Once you have the slope, speed, and zero line you can calculate the break with the aimcharts. The concept is VERY simple in theory and VERY simple if you greens have a lot of planar surfaces (flat but tilted). The problem I have is I rarely find a putt that is on a truly planar surface. When you start talking about crowns, saddles, anchor points, inflexion points, etc it does get more complicated and makes it difficult to "take out on the course". What would be really cool is if sky caddie or a company like that would would show contour lines of the greens. My understanding is that sky caddie does measure the green and should have the contour lines but I have never seen that information released. If you have the contour lines of the greens you play you would be CRAZY not to use aimpoint.

I'm not surprised at all that people still believe these things and that golf instruction is terrible. Why would people believe anything different when they here these things everytime they turn on the TV and watch the golf channel or a golf tournament. Fix the commentary on golf tournaments and get better instructors on the golf channel - things would change very quickly!!!!