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Problem is my hands get really sweaty so even slowing down my swing still leads to some slipping. Here's what I've been experimenting with... https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-7AfFg6FIVTY/UHCchMbePrI/AAAAAAAAAPk/XFH1BdlFnn4/s640/IMG_20121006_150038.jpg As you can see it's shifted down from the lifeline to the bottom fatty part of the palm. It seems to have helped with the slipping issue...but I'm not sure if this will lead to other problems.

Hey everyone, I've been having a problem lately with my grip on left hand (right handed swing) during the backswing. It feels like the grip is detaching from the base of my palm. I currently have the grip between the two fatty parts of the palm on the lifeline which I thought was correct, however when I do this the problem aforementioned happens, and it causes the face of the club to open up resulting in nasty shanks. Any tips on how to stop this from happening? Are my grip fundamentals incorrect? I experimented with almost a different grip, almost like a karate chop looking down wards where the bottom thin side of my hand aligns with the grip and it seems to prevent this...

Ah I see you're left handed. The true S&T; swing has roughly 95% of your weight on the left (your right) at the top of the backswing, and around 100% at impact. The way you are doing it has weight shift from one side to the other, which (according to S&T; guys) leads to a lot of problems

It could be both, actually. If I read correctly you said you were straightening your right leg on the back swing, so as far as hip turn goes on the back swing you should be fine. On the down swing, and especially with the driver, you want your hips to be sliding forward as long as possible on the down swing rather than a sudden hip burst. It's the gradual movement instead of just exploding the hips shift The way I feel the swing in my head is that on my backswing I feel my shoulders rotating and my right leg straightening until the top of my backswing, and then I release the accumulators while sliding the hips forward towards the target and slightly upward so my belt buckle raises

I'm don't think I'm fluent enough with the stack & tilt to diagnose what's going wrong, but if I had to guess it's either the ball is too high on the tee or your hip movement isn't gradual enough. I will let one of the experts give you a better answer because I am only 3 weeks into the swing and still have a lot of problems to address myself. I suggest you study up as much as you can (the videos in this thread are great help). The great thing is I am getting to the point where I can tell what went wrong with my swing using S&T; right after I hit the ball and make the fix on the spot I did, however, get my driver working recently and it feels awesome. A local pro gave me a simple tip and it had to do with fundamentals, I had the club way too square at address and my left hand was gripped too strong. Such a simple fix and I'm able to hit some bombs off the tee now. Your issue could be as simple as a fundamental like mine or more complex with the swing mechanics themselves. Now my problem is controlling the slice spin when I hit it, but contact has been excellent.

Well, if you go out and try doing just that you will sooner or later run into problems like I did. The DVD set explains more than just that, mainly the swing path, the ideal set up weight ratios, the back swing and follow through patterns and solutions to fixing problems. For example I was hitting a nasty hook when I started doing this and there's a segment that explains exactly what's going wrong and how to fix it, another example is I thought my straight pushes were good shots and that I should just adjust to the left, and there's a segment for fixing that so I can just take the right aim each time. The insight is just much more detailed than what you'll find online and if you're a visual learner like I am it helps a lot. If you can get results without it more power to you!

Got my hands on the video lessons and wow, what an improvement. Much different than a lot of the stuff on youtube and a lot more detailed, went and hit the range today after watching the different lessons 2-3 times. More pure and straight shots with that nice little draw than ever before and cured my hook and straight push that was killing me. Beforehand the fundamentals of my backswing were completely off and the weight ratios, ball alignment etc were all off. Definitely recommend the DVD's to those who can get them

Hi everyone, I recently converted to the SnT swing and I have been having a lot of success with my irons, but my driver has seen no progress at all. I'm going to list the assumptions I've gathered and adjusted to to see if I have just comprehended it incorrectly. -Ball aligned in the left inside heel. -Handle slightly forward to the inner thigh. -Head and sternum on a fixed plane aligned with the head of the driver, not the ball. -Right elbow tucked into side of chest (lats) throughout the back swing and downswing (feels very unnatural and cramped) -Hips push forward towards the target through the downswing and follow through -Left shoulder feels like it's pushing up through the downswing, and this leads to expansion of the chest and tucking of the butt in the follow through -Upper axis tilts away from the target while hips are pushed towards the target -right foot 'jumps' off the mat to push hips through (maybe I'm making the push too snappy?) First off, before I converted to stack and tilt I couldn't hit my driver well either. But now It's either a pop up push fade, low grass burner that goes 50 yards, or a big duck hook. When I first started doing these methods I would hit maybe 5-7/35 balls with a beautiful push draw with plenty of distance, now I seemed to have regressed using the same methods and it's about 1-35 that are decent drives and not the push draw but more of just a push. The rest are like I mentioned, sometimes I hit the gates that separate the mats. The most un-natural part I feel like is keeping the elbow tucked like I see in the videos, it feels like the club is fixed on an single path on the backswing but then feels like I'm slapping the ball with torso rotation giving really weak and weird shots. I'm going to try and get a video up as reading and adjustments haven't helped much yet but maybe you guys see something wrong with what I listed above. I'm trying to get better off the tee before I start playing more on the course but right now it seems like the only clubs I can rely on are my irons.

I tested out bowing my knee outwards yesterday and had great results, thank you for the tip

After checking my swing again in the mirror, it looks like my left knee is caving inwards way too much, indicating my lower body is way too active on the downswing. When I'm practicing sometimes it's hard to realize this, are there any tips / drills to help reduce that lower body movement on the backswing?

I have been studying this swing and practicing it daily for the past couple of weeks but in my research and practice there's something I'm not sure of, and I feel it's a reason for my inconsistencies. It pertains to the downswing, and how the knuckles and shaft are parallel with the ground, and it's a bit difficult to articulate. Right now I am using the once piece take-away and hinging my wrists at the top of my backswing. My questions are, what initiates the downswing, is it the lateral hip movement? Do I keep my wrists locked through impact? Or do I keep them locked until the shaft and knuckles are parallel and then loosen them up right before impact? I've been playing around with it a bit and I feel like if I keep my wrists locked until and through impact that it would require a great deal of hip slide and the upper body tilting away from the target, which if I understand correctly is the form. It just feels a bit unnatural and tight compared to letting the wrists soften up a bit upon impact (which means less tilt away from the target at impact) but I think the wrist softening is the cause for my inconsistent shots. Are the hips doing all the work to get through the downswing or is there wrist movement involved that I am unaware of?

Your story about volleyball hits home since it is quite similar to mine in lacrosse, I worked extremely hard, harder than most if not all of my colleagues, but simply didn't see the fruits of my labor. It took a big toll considering I have been playing and working hard since I was 14 as well. I know the feeling you're talking of and it made me realize that sometimes you just have to cut your losses and move on. Reading all the comments on here made me realize I don't have the means to pursue this with a high rate of success, mostly from a financial standpoint. There's also no way my parents would ever support me dropping school to do this. My priority number 1 is still school but my time outside will be spent on the course. Regardless, my new fascination in golf has helped me take my mind off of things. I've already seen progress from the practice I've been doing lately (just the other day I shot in the 80s again, without using a driver or fairway wood ) and am going to do my best to get a job at a golf course whether it be a public one or a private club to continue practicing smart. At least I will be spending my time doing something I really enjoy and maybe working somewhere I enjoy. I also know I won't be let down if it doesn't work out because unlike lacrosse, progress can be tracked much more precisely. I wish there was a club or intramural team but there isn't any I know of. If the 'fun' you speak of is partying, well I've been there and done that. At this point I'd much rather wake up early on Saturday morning to hit the links than nurse a hangover. Thanks again for the comments everyone

Thanks for the response, but the numbers I posted are indeed accurate. When I manage to pure the ball I think my seven years of heavy weight lifting are paying off a little bit .If I could get my handicap into single digits in this year I would feel very accomplished so that is encouraging to see it's possible. As for your question, the problem is I'm not consistent enough yet all in all aspects of the game. I never know how my driver or fairway woods are going to play on a given day, sometimes I'm bombing them down the fairway all day, and sometimes it feels like I can't even make contact with the ball with those clubs. Most of the time it's poor driving and fairway wood play that leads to stroke penalties or in a bad lie in the trees where I have to take a stroke to even get it in play. Combine that with poor putting that results in a lot of 3 putts. Put those together and it's what kills my scores consistently. The only consistency in my game right now is my iron play, and it's not always accurate, but I can always make good contact and get the ball out there especially with 6-P. My chipping and pitching usually show up, and bunkers seem to be easy to get out of for me, but it's off the tee and putting that really hurt my score almost every round.

Hi everyone, I'm sure there's been many of these let's say... 'pipe dream' type threads that get posted on here, whether it's making the tour, future olympics or even what I am asking about. My apologies in advance for my naivety. Some background about myself; I've been playing the game infrequently and non-competitively (aside from family competition) for 10+ years. When it comes to handicap, I don't even have one recorded. I would say right now I'm a 20, some days better and some worse. The best round I can recall was a mid 80s. Up until late July I had not played golf in around a year, and before that I would play once or twice a month give or take, but never would hit the range or practice really. Lately I've taken a lot more interest in the game and have been reading up on things such as the "LAWS" philosophy and have been tweaking my swing and I have had some shots that lead me to create this thread. While I haven't figured out the key to consistent driving or fairway wood play yet, I feel like some of the iron shots I have made scream potential and that with a lot of hard work and development could lead to some great iron play at the least. Off the top of my head I want to share a few examples, such as 150-155 yard pitching wedge shots, 210+ yard five irons, and some 240-260 yard 4 irons. When I strike the driver well, my drives can range from 280-300+, five woods 250+, and 3 woods that can sometimes out-distance my driver. These are not typical shots but rather when I pure it and everything is in sync, but as my irons 6-P go I hit these shots fairly consistently with accuracy. My chipping and pitching is decent, but my putting accounts for at least 10 extra strokes a round with the frequency of 3-putts. At this point if you're still reading I'm sure my naivety is overwhelming but I realize distance isn't the name of the game, but it does make me think of "what if" scenarios if I were to train and take my game to a higher level. I wouldn't be trying out this season, but rather a year from now which would be a lot of time I could spent on the range, getting my swing in sync, and playing a lot of golf. It would require me to quit the current sport I play, however. It's a D1 school team and from the tournament scores I see posted their scores posted range from high 60s (rarely) but some players shoot in the mid 70 to high 70s. I also realize that golf is a game that people dedicate their life from an early age to, years of practice that cannot simply be made up in a year of training, years I cannot get back. But then I read some of the off ball stories like Y.E. Yang who was a weight lifter until he was 16 and as we all know now is a PGA tour player, it at least sparks some thought. Should I tee it up and give it a shot, or am I simply attempting to bite off a lot more than I can chew?

Hey guys, I have been practicing a lot more lately and usually break up my practice sessions on the range into different club types. I have been able to hit my irons from 4-pitch (and the higher lofted wedges) straight and with consistency for the most part. Today I tried just hitting my fairway woods off the mat and had a miserable time--nothing but shanks, slices and the feeling of hitting the turf really hard but not the ball. I've heard the swing is supposed to be more of a sweep than going for compression like with irons, but after hitting 30 or so balls I was getting absolutely nowhere. I tried adjusting my stance width, ball placement and longevity of my back swing but nothing really helped. I thought maybe it was a bad day so I picked up my irons to finish off my bucket and was hitting them as per usual with consistency. So onto my questions: Is there a fundamental key I'm missing when using a fairway wood compared to an iron, and if so what would that be? Is it a different tempo, different plane on the back swing or something else? Also, to throw in another curve ball, the last round I played I was hitting my fairway woods excellent off the tee, but when I hit one off the turf I had the same results as at the range.