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I do believe that because like I sad Earlier I have a Titanium driver that goes 20 yards longer than My Persimmon. I have an old Yonex ADX2 that I can hit 30 yards longer on dry fairways in the summer because of the low trajectory. My problem with modern equipment is I am 65 and have been playing for almost 50 years I have grooved a swing I don't feel like changing and I have spent thousands on new clubs of which I found the irons to be great but I have yet to find a new driver where I don't have to manipulate the club with my hands to keep my fade from turning into a slice. I finally settled on a Ti driver with a smaller head. That great big head on some of the clubs I've tried just does something to my head .

You misquoted me ""If you meant a persimmon on the sweetspot vs a new driver on the sweetspot, all things being equal, the smaller clubhead (i.e. the persimmon) typically delivers a more efficient (and longer hit). "" wasn't me that said it. And , why was Fowler using an old ball and persimmon wood? And Cherry hills is a mile above sea level. Thinner air. Less wind resistance=longer ball. I believe there may be some advantages to newer equipment, but it's mostly hype to sell the stuff.

Quote "If you meant a persimmon on the sweetspot vs a new driver on the sweetspot, all things being equal, the smaller clubhead (i.e. the persimmon) typically delivers a more efficient (and longer hit). " The claim the manufacturers make is that the sweet spot on newer drivers delivers more distance because it's hollow and creates a spring effect. But I somehow doubt they're any more honest than car manufacturers or anyone else. I do know I can hit a TItanium driver further than a persimmon and I rarely miss hit anything. I think Golf should have kept the old equipment. Like Pro baseball sticks to wooden bats. I fell for the hype for a long time before I realized that every new driver I bought that was supposed to add 20 yards to my drives should add up to me hitting 700 yard drives. In a nutshell Goilfers might be the most gullible people on the planet. Like Sam Snead said "if you have a swing you can hit it with a stick

There's not such thing as an absolutely perfect shot.

If you can hit the sweetspot it will go straighter, but not as far is what they say. I can still hit a persimmon driver about 240, which everyone my age learned to play with. I can hit an oversized metal driver about the same distance with more of a tendancy to slice unless I use a stiff shaft. I can hit my Ti driver about 260, with less ability to work the ball. I also seem to hit my persommon 3 wood as far as my persimmon driver off the tee, so I use it more often than the driver.

I was a terrible hooker starting out. Maybe because I am left handed and swing the club right handed. So the swing worked for me. I do fade the ball usually but if I get more aggressive with the turning of the wrist on the way down I can hit a draw. If I need to hook the ball I can only do it with a strong grip and stiff wrist. People with a slice think they have a problem but a bad hook IMO is way worse

Were they bargain basement, mid priced or high end clubs? I don't know anything about them. I had a set of Palmer blades when I was young and couldn't hit them worth a darn so never payed much attention to his clubs after that. I picked up a set real cheap. The metal woods aren't very good, the shafts are too whippy so I hit a big fade, almost slice. But the irons I really like. I can work the ball and if I do mishit the ball I haven't noticed.

I think his secret is laying off the club, bowing the left wrist at the start of the swing. I have been doing that for years but I learned it from Calvin Peate, in an instruction article, I never met him., It really makes the swing repeatable, and for me, I only need two swing keys. Pull with the legs and curl the left wrist. From there everything falls into place. If I hit a bad shot I know it's usually because I started down with my hands. I think Hogan is probably the best ball striker the game has ever seen.

I took a Lynx Persimmon driver to the range today. I had a big head LX driver and Palmer PHD and the Persimmon. I hit both the oversized drivers ok but with a fade, which I have learned to live with, I hit a few balls with the persimmon. They went straighter, a little higher and seemed to land a few yards past the other ones, it wasn't until I got home that I realized I took the Persimmon 3 wood to the range instead of the driver.

Huh? He won the Masters twice, the open four times, the British Open and the PGA. He is one of four people the ever win all four Championships. And he did it in a day when the equipment was good enough to manicure the golf course as well as today and the clubs weren't as forgiving. He had one of , if not the most influential swings in the history of the game. If Hogan was around today he'd do the same thing he did back then, He'd eat up Golf course. Same goes for Snead, Nicklaus, A great golfer could compete in any era. There''s a saying .."There's no place on the scorecard for how you did it" If anyone is judging Hogan on watching films of him playing, and analyzing his swing to come to such a conclusion as you have you might be better off to look at what his scores were.

I picked up a set of Lynx persimmon woods for free off graigslist. "Heel N Toe " with the bass inserts in the sole. I only went a got them because I saw a Bullseye putter in the bag. But you're right these Lynx woods are pretty easy to hit straight. And I don't lose much distance.

Feel is a funny thing. I tried a new Ping 2 iron a couple or years ago at the range/golf store, It felt like I was hitting a bowling ball but the ball took off like a rocket. I have an Old ADXII Graphite driver that feels like that too. I think a big part of feel is how you hit it.

Are the AC-108's blades? or an early attempt at a cavity back? I have had a set for about 35 years and could never get a clear answer on that. Mine definitely have a cavity and they're stainless irons not forged.

I have a set of AC-108's I have had for decades. I have owned many different clubs over the years buying into the clubs can make my game better. I finally figured out that if all the company claims were true about their new and improved clubs I would be hitting my driver 500 yards and would be a -15 handicap. I come to the conclusion that hands down the best Irons I ever hit were AC-108's and Hogan Directors. I wouldn't recommend them to a high handicapper or newby but if you can consistently hit near the sweetspot the AC-108's are deadly accurate and the ball stops on the green like a dropped cat.