ryunin

I have been to an indoor driving range with foresight sports GC2 tracking computer device and have loads of data. I have about 150 shots with my driver detected. If you are interested what might happen to your shots if your swingspped is about 80 mph, it is a very exciting reading for quiet evenings. The only problem is that basically all my shots have closed clubface at impact, from 0.5 up to 7 degrees. I am going to work on this mistake as soon as possible. Anyway, I have learned a lot of theory if not practice from the data. Now I understand how launch angle, left or right side spin form my shots, I understand where my hooks and slices come from, I can imagine all the shots and their shape just reading the data now. Sorry, but I love it. Of course, now I am going to work with the data and try to change with my online teacher the biggest mistakes. I haven't posted my swing video here yet as first I want to shorten my backswing, still struggling there, plus based on the data, I want to open the clubface a tiny little bit, or even better square it. So if you want to see the data and understand what happens to your swing with speed of about 80 mph, I can send you the file in private. Oh and my shots go everywhere so you can find your typical shot there... unless you are a decent driver, of course. For those people, I will have data next fall, lol...

Yes, I mean the height of the clubhead at its highest point during the finish. I must have been unclear as for the comparison. I mean compaing Adam Scott's finish / clubhead height/ to Jim McLean's finish/ clubhead height link to Adam Scott's driver finish where the clubhead goes to the stratosphere compared to Jim's:

OK. I don't have very good quality videos of my swing, but something might be revealed. I will try to post them in the my swing section tomorrow.

I understand it is useless for a swing analysis, but I was interested in the problem of low finish and then found that picture and realized that my finish was not so low, as we can see in the picture. I am thinking of posting a video of my swing but there are so many mistakes in the swing that I don't even know where to start. Is it worth posting the whole swing the picture is taken from? It is a bit too dark and I don't have a quality camera so the impact section is completely blurred. Yes, somebody told me yesterday that McLean's low finish has to do with his age, so I guess it is not ideal to start with. I am 48 but pretty flexible and fit for my age. Abrevvviated finishes at the Champions Tour, that must be some kind of Senior Tour I suppose. So in general I should make higher finish than Jim McLean, right?

Thank you, I am adding the link to the video where Jim McLean, at the end of the video, shows his swing. It seems the finish is quite low , it would definitely fit into my room. See 1: 55. If you can slow down the video, you can clearly see his finish is lower than his backswing.

I noticed based on a video where I drive a ball, that the finish seems higher than when I practice without a ball. A picture from that video attached below. But the question remains, what is the disadvantage of a lower finish with a driver? I can post a link to that low Jim McLeans video later if necessary.

I noticed a PGA pro like Adam Scott has very high finish, his shaft basically vertical in the highest point, which is higher than any time during his backswing. On the other hand the teacher Jim McLean showing a nice swing with a driver has lower finish than his backswing. Myself, I have never had a high finish, it seems as low as Jim McLean's. I wonder whether such a relatively low finish is absolutely OK unless we want to win a PGA tournament. This problem is also related to my practice swings in my bedroom. My bedroom is only about 8.2 feet high. But I can comfortably backswing with my driver here, I would have to really make my swingplane very upright to reach the ceiling with my driver. As my finish is lower than my highest point during my backswing, it seems I can comfortably practice driver swings in my bedroom, but as far as I know a ceiling that is at least 9 feet high is recommended for driver practice. Would you then say that my finish must be too low if I can comfortably fit into such a small room? Of course, not saying I swing at the max speed, but my swing speed is only about 80 mph anyway.

I am working hard on improving my swing with the driver and the posture at address is critical, of course. Until now I tended to stand with my hands too close to the body with the shaft of the driver pointing to my crotch rather than the navel. I understand that, based on pictures and videos of pros, what they do at address with the driver is arms farther from the body than with other clubs, which seems like the hands are very far from the thighs, a lot of room between thighs and hands and the shaft is pointing to their navel rather than the crotch. This posture seems a bit unnatural to me, I understand I must connect arms with the body, specifically my chest with my arms and I understand it is possible to stand like the pros without disconnecting arms and the body. My question is what happens if my arms or hands are too close to the thighs, say like with a 5 wood, and if the shaft points to the crotch rather than the navel. Is such a posture an absolute no-no? And why is it necessary with the driver to keep hands so far from the thighs and shaft pointing to the navel?

I hope that is not the case, I hook the club quite often - which would suggest too much wrist action, but when I said flush I meant I am surprised how easier it is to hit the sweet spot compared to my driver, or irons - But if the midsize grip makes the club too difficult to hit nicely it would suggest the regular grip suits me better, we'll see, I can experiment a bit.

49 grams is still quite different from 25 grams I think, but I could keep this grip and add two wraps under it - why not four wraps, though? But I have just found this: http://www.winngrips.com/products/comfort-grips/dri-tac-wrap-lite-midsize/ I didn t know such grips really existed, I tried to google lightweight midsize grips but found nothing under 50 grams, now at this site, they offer this superlight midsize grip. Only 23 grams.

seems like the only way to maintain the feel and weight of the club is to add four wraps to the standard grip, and achieve a midsize like grip size and not lose any of the wonderful balance and feel I have now with the club

That's what I am afraid of: different feel, different weight... seems like just bc I need a midsize grip I have to put up with a different club altogether, which sucks.

I have a new 5 wood, Cleveland CG Black , 2012 model. I love this club. It is my favorite club although I have been playing irons for two years and driver for a year. For me, this club is definitely the easiest to hit flush for me, although I have only had it for a few weeks. I love the soft, beatiful contact and the trajectory. I have to hit at least 10 balls with my 7iron before I get a nice contact, while with this club it takes about three. The only problem is that the club came with a superlight grip, Tour 25, only 25 g, but in standard size, whereas I use midsize grips. The whole club weighs only about 280 grams. The swingweight is D2. I suppose they mean with this light shaft and ligth grip. Now if I get a midsize Golf Pride Tour Velvet grip, it weighs about 60 grams. That's 35 grams difference. I know that swingweight is not affected by the weight of the grip that much or not at all, but 35 grams seems like a lot of difference. The club just as it is now, seems fantastically balanced just for me. Now if I go to midsize grip, the whole club will be 35 grams heavier and the SW will be messed up at least a little. What would be a near no nonsence solution to this problem? I don't want to lose that D2 swingweight which seems perfect. I don't know why they don't sell midsize Tour 25 grips, even if they are 35 grams, instaed of 25, that would be the perfect solution for me, but like this I have no idea what to do, only hope that I will get used to a club with a different overal weight and probably different feel. I would appreciate some kind of wise tips from experienced golfers.

Thank you guys for the tips and advice and explanation of stock shafts and fitting for a certain shaft type or length.

Thank you guys for comments and advice. I have done some search and reading and came to the same conclusion as you - that a driver requires adifferent approach and for example the relaxed, easy going swing that works with my 5 wood doesn't work with my driver and I probably woudn't benefit from the super light shaft I have with my 5 wood. So I will just keep my current driver and will work on the swing. As for fitting, when does dynamic fitting makes sense? Isn't it better to wait until my swing becomes at least a little bit consistent, at least with the driver where my swing does not exist yet? I mean it is going to change rapidly within the next 12 months, I am changing a lot of things this year with the driver, shorter backswing, calm hips in backswing, more dynamic downswing, I mean if I get fitted dynamically now, in half a year it will be useless, I think. I have cleveland custom 588 with a regular flex and one lesson was about three basic things I am supposed to do and now a teacher told me to get used to the whole driver swing, and stop worrying about details ... so really only a beginning.