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  1. if you look at iacas' response to my response he dissects, condescends, builds sarcasm into his statements, etc. i don't have any time for his bologna. apparently i came late to the party and didn't realize this website's intent. i thought the website "sandtrap.com", that i found because of some good equip reviews, etc., was a golf discussion open to anyone pure and simple. i thought because i was a + hndcp that i would be helping others but didn't realize the site was monitored by a self proclaimed golf czar in iacass. the site should be called "stack-n-tilt.com." i'll just take a vacation from this site and when/if i come back i most assuredly won't be posting anything. i'm off. insert vacuous sound here. bye -
  2. first - IACAS: i don't come around very often. but, when i have you have sought me out it seems to poke holes in whatever i may have to say. iacas has done this every time, literally. i understand he is a proprietor of this website. i understand he is an instructor, profits from his advice, derives clients from this website and is (was?) a proponent of stack and tilt. it seems if he is no longer a proponent of s&t; exclusively, it would be because s&t; as a stand alone swing method has really been debunked. but in past, he has professed it as "the" swing. over the past two years or so i've seen where he has massaged s&t; to be the swing methodology employed by ben hogan and other legends, but they didn't know it was stack and tilt. i have called him out on that, and some others agreed with me that he (and this site) is a bit overt on the s&t; chatter. has this changed? i don't know. but because of this i don't participate much in discussions. in fact i mostly go around the two other prominent golf discussion weebsites. moreover, i haven't visited this website or this specific thread since i started it whenever that was. then the other day i came back and saw where he's just laying into me, posting still pictures (where did he even get those?), drawing lines, saying all sorts of blather that is just silly. saying "hips 42 degress open" "back leg straight" or whatever - basically tearing me a new one. i'm thinking the guy doesn't even know me!!! he's got to be a hack!!! why? he hasn't asked me anything... he's never PM'd me to clarify or anything, yet he's an authority on my swing? WHAT? he doesn't know my swing, my game, etc., yet here he is just killing me. i mean, yeah - come on! as to the "straightening" of the right leg... whatever! yeah - come on... bubba watson? see below. can his leg straighten any more? everyone knows why you WOULD want to straighten your back leg. it maximizes the amount of rearward hip rotation which also maximizes the amount he is able to turn behind the ball. is this for everyone? it could be... does it matter? i don't think so. why would anyone profess not to straighten the rear leg? a straightening rear leg could cause your upper body to tilt toward the target if you don't have a sufficient upper body spine angle (away from target). but, watch the vid. after bubba gets his turn he "squats" a bit and rotates his hips thru just about more than anyone. was bubba's dad saying to him "uh son, you can't do that!!" no... his dad knew his game - saw his scorecard(s), saw he could do anything with the golf ball, etc., as to the original intent of the post "hands ahead" - i consider myself a "pro flipper." watch lee westwood. his left wrist breaks down a touch and his left elbow folds at or shortly after impact. i am more or less a "lee westwood" type of impact person. because of this, the one thing i have to work on is forward shaft lean to ensure that i have enough. so, i posted what i like to work on to get my hands ahead. then come back and the dude has lit a fire under my arse... yeah - come on! iacas, have anything to say about these?: here's a swing of mine from Dec 6 2011 and here's a swing of mine from Oct 11, 2011 those two days i was working on something very specific, and quite different. and, because i am a "work in progress" anyone can see there's a difference in my swing from october to december. in fact, here in mid-january i would guess i am a bit diffferent now than then. so, and in summary, when someone with which i have a history lights into me (yet again) for the purpose of selling lessons and or placing themselves higher on the golfing pedestal, etc., i reserve the right to fire back. and again, they don't know me (my swing, my game, etc.,) from a hole in the ground. cheers
  3. body { font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; margin: 0px 0px 0px 0px; padding: 0px; background: #FBF9EC; } table { text-align:left;} p { margin-left:0px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px;} td { font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13px; width: 18px; } Iacass, Can you handle that? Course: Bears Best, Suwanee, Ga Start Time: 1/9/2012, 10:39 AM Duration: 3:30 Weather: 56℉, Clear, Humidity: 93%, Wind: S at 5 mph Generated By: Easy Scorecard Pro HOLE 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 OUT 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 IN TOT AVG HCP Back (72.5/140) 439 358 167 364 428 169 586 422 572 3505 362 167 536 442 574 375 190 439 484 3569 7074 Stroke Index 3 13 15 17 1 9 11 5 7 12 4 16 6 8 18 14 10 2 PAR 4 4 3 4 4 3 5 4 5 36 4 3 5 4 5 4 3 4 4 36 72 Tom 4 3 3 3 4 3 4 4 5 33 3 2 4 4 5 3 3 5 4 33 66 3.67 +2.2 66 Stableford 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 OUT 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 IN TOT AVG HCP Tom 2 4 2 4 2 2 4 2 2 24 4 4 4 2 2 4 2 1 2 25 49 2.72 +2.2 PUTT 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 OUT 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 IN TOT AVG Tom 1 1 2 1 1 2 1 2 2 13 1 1 1 2 2 1 1 2 2 13 26 1.44 FWY HIT 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 OUT 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 IN TOT % Tom X X X X X 5 X X X X X X X 7 12 85.71 G.I.R. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 OUT 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 IN TOT % Tom X X X X X X X 7 X X X X X X X 7 14 77.78 Scrambling 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 OUT 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 IN TOT % Tom X X 2 X 1 3 75.00 SAND SHOTS 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 OUT 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 IN TOT AVG Tom 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.00 Eagle Birdie Bogey Double Bogey Triple Bogey or more GIR Putt Average: Tom: 1.50 Handicap Analysis: Tom: Using manual handicap index of +2.2.
  4. iacas, you're a hacker aren't you? a complete chopper. you're a hater too... you're a stack and tilt teacher and you can't handle someone (like me) with a better game/swing than you. you play golf swing (S&T;); i play golf. i'll play you anytime for cash (big cash), or reputation. bring it!! bash all you want - you're a chopper. i saw that drill you posted where you were acting as if you were hitting "down hill" to show how to get your hands ahead. you don't know what you're doing. and you give lessons? to hackers no doubt... bring it chopper.
  5. unless you haven't read my text above, earlier in this thread, please do. Alright, the KBS C-Taper shafts are very nice. I must say they are my favorites as of now.
  6. Went to a master club fitter last week to look ONLY at iron shafts and was concerned only with distance control, shot accuracy/dispersion, ball on club face consistency. All fittings done outdoors, with naked eye AND a fully operational Trackman with great targets. There was a little wind, temperature was hovering in upper 50's and it was relatively humid/overcast. I live in Atlanta area. I made conscious effort to put same exact swing on every shot. After seeing me swing, measuring speed, etc., we had a specific idea of what to do. In a 6-iron configuration (Mizuno MP 58) that, for loft and lie, exactly matched my own 6-iron (Mizuno MP 62 - had them measure lie on my own iron, then had them bend the fitter's club to match), the fitter took six (6) shafts out in his fitting cart in addition to my 6-iron. My 6-iron is Project X 6.5 with standard grip size +5 wraps, which makes it 1/64 larger than a mid-size. Each club was struck exactly three (3) times on a matt (not turf). I'm not going to include the shafts that didn't produce good results, rather just focus on the shafts that provided good results. Face contact My club (PX 6.5) was dead on center every time. KBS C-Taper S was dead on center every time. DG X100 was dead on center every time. Distance control - 95mph swing, 205yds carry My club (PX 6.5) was +/- 10yds. KBS C-Taper S was +/- 10yds. DG X100 was was +/- 5yds. Shot dispersion My club (PX 6.5) was +/- 15yds. KBS C-Taper S was +/- 10yds. DG X100 was +/- 5yds or even less. Note: Every shot off the matt produced a draw curvature, which is to be expected as my stock swing (confirmed by trackman) is in to out on average 2°. At conclusion of fitting, I took my own club AND the x100 out and onto the turf. Shots with my club were providing standard dispersion characteristics of between 6-10yds of target. The x100's dispersion was noticeably straighter, although with a draw of 10yds or so. I did NOT take the KBS C Taper onto the turf. Conclusion: Looking at the Trackman's output (top line, trajectory, dispersion, etc.) it was 110% clear that the stiffer the shaft, the tighter the dispersion, more consistent the distance and more consistent face contact. The fitter and I concluded I should look only at x100, Project X 7.0 or KBS C-Taper S+ or X flex. They did not have the PX 7 or KBS S+ or X. He also recommended I play the same shaft in my three wedges. In a set of R9 TP "B" irons I no longer play, are X100 Tour Issue shafts. I also stopped on way home and bought three 37" X100 shafts for my wedges. I pulled the Project X 6.5s out of my MP62s; pulled the X100s out of the RP TP "B"s. I cleaned, prepped then installed the X100s into my MP62s, and wedges. I have played the X100s for four rounds. I am much tighter in dispersion, shots are lower, distance is consistent AND (big caveat here) in two consecutive days I had two hole out eagles. 1 @ 132yds, 1 @ 151yds. So, why am I posting about KBS? Well, the X100s are harsh when the shaft is not fully loaded. Also, I have lost 5yds of distance on my wedge full shots (51, 57). The KBS shafts during the fitting were absolutely sweet to hit. So, I bought a new set of Mizuno MP 68s with KBS C-Taper S+. I got them yesterday and am going out to play today. More feedback soon.
  7. precisely why people who doubt are average golfers, and people like me are plus handicappers. keep doing what you're doing... or try something like stack and tilt... tee hee hee
  8. There's no magic. It is training that makes your hands get ahead of the clubhead at impact and THAT (hands ahead) is the #1 key to consistent shot making, and consistent scores. To get your hands ahead #1, you must have great hip rotation!!! The average tour pro's hips are 42 degrees open at impact. The average amateur golfer's hips are about 10 degrees open. To get your hands ahead #2, you must have great hip rotation!!! The average tour pro's hips are 42 degrees open at impact. The average amateur golfer's hips are about 10 degrees open. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Drill 1: Get an impact bag. Put it where your ball would be ordinarily. Address the ball. IMPORTANT: Set your right knee for a golf swing and make 110% sure it is bent at address and stays bent all the way to the top!!! DO NOT LET IT STRAIGHTEN!!! Envision that someone has a rope tied to your left front pocket (right handed golfer) Start your thru swing and as you start down, imagine that someone pulls hard on that rope and it spins your hips open. Simultaneously, as your hips spin open you POST UP on a firm left side. If you do not do this you will slide forward and you'll look like any other hacker and your hopes of getting your hands ahead will be dashed. Hit the impact bag at 50% your normal hitting force. ----------------------- Drill 2: Get a swim noodle Put it four feet in front of your ball (i use a microphone stand, and stick the noodle on the end). Address the ball. IMPORTANT: Set your right knee for a golf swing and make 110% sure it is bent at address and stays bent all the way to the top!!! DO NOT LET IT STRAIGHTEN!!! Envision that someone has a rope tied to your left front pocket (right handed golfer) Start your thru swing and as you start down, imagine that someone pulls hard on that rope and it spins your hips open. Simultaneously, as your hips spin open you POST UP on a firm left side. If you do not do this you will slide forward and you'll look like any other hacker and your hopes of getting your hands ahead will be dashed. Hit the ball at 50% your normal hitting force and stop your club before it hits the swim noodle. The more advanced you become, move the swim noodle closer to your ball. ----------------------- Drill 3: Address your ball. IMPORTANT: Set your right knee for a golf swing and make 110% sure it stays bent. Before you start your back swing, press your hands forward as far as they will possibly go.... Make sure your right knee stays bent all the way to the top!!! DO NOT LET IT STRAIGHTEN!!! Maintain the forward press!!!! Envision that someone has a rope tied to your left front pocket (right handed golfer) Start your thru swing and as you start down, imagine that someone pulls hard on that rope and it spins your hips open. Simultaneously, as your hips spin open you POST UP on a firm left side. If you do not do this you will slide forward and you'll look like any other hacker and your hopes of getting your hands ahead will be dashed. Hit the ball at 90% your normal hitting force and try to feel your right wrist angle.
  9. - - - - - - - - - - - - - Well, that's all fine and good... I guess... it depends what you're trying to accomplish. Myself? I picked up the game in April 2008. I broke 70 (a 69) April 14, 2010. This past season (2011) I shot in the 60's more than I shot in the 80's. My low round (July 6th, 2011) was 64. I played yesterday, had seven birdies and shot 68 (yeah, if it had been a perfect round would have shot 65, but no one is perfect). My swing is below... I've never been told I look like Hogan, Woods, Couples, etc., but when I rattle off birdie after birdie, get on most par 5s in two, people don't wonder what I look like cause my game says it all. And, because I play "my own game" I don't worry about looking like some other great player. I'm not trying to belittle what you're doing, in the least, I'm just sitting here wondering the purpose. Hope you get good, and most importantly, when you decide to play against high caliber players, that your swing stands up...
  10. wow. i applaud your interest and dedication. i can't say anything but positives to you because you are a man on mission! gotta love that! i especially love the hogan hat in every video. to me, that says it all!!! you are an inspiration!
  11. post face on videos.
  12. Tom

    My Swing (Tom)

    Poser, good point and right-o! i could continue to "work on my swing" and certainly will. but,you have to be careful. look at woods with foly - what a train wreck that has become. i don't want to chase that. know what i mean? could i hold the right wrist angle longer? who couldn't! could i turn my left hand, wrist and forearm more as a single unit and have a more natural flowing turn over of my right hand/arm? absolutely! could my right arm be bent more and could i have more lateral bend? absolutely... look at the photos i posted above of the pros... four gifted athletes with all very different impact conditions. they all get it done. point is: you nailed it. what you suggest is spot on. thanks!
  13. Tom

    My Swing (Tom)

    hi chipotle, you've hit the nail on the head! the trait that all driver/holder's demonstrate is more (much more) bend in their right arm at impact than the flipper (me) or the roller (mickelson). look at mickelson (below left), especially with his driver. his left arm (trailing arm) is straight at impact. then compare him to the most extreme driver/holder, and you see - BIG TIME. for example, rory sabatini (second from left - and yeah, rory sabatini) is an extreme driver/holder. Next is Rory McIlroy (in red shirt). He's a driver holder but because he has less lateral bend (less than Sabatini) he doesn't get his upper right arm more forward and result is his hands aren't as forward as some players, which goes back to a point I made earlier. How forward do you need to be to be a good consistent player? Then, there's Tiger Woods. I took these videos (and grabbed these stills), and many more, at this past PGA Championship in Johnscreek, GA at the famed 16th tee. As far as driver holder's go, Rory is extreme. The two other fellows that are extreme were Robert Garrigus and Dustin Johnson. the point here, for me at least, is that in saying "try and keep your right elbow bent throughout the whole downswing until it naturally straightens on your follow through" is 1,000,000 times easier said than done. if you've hit a million balls, changing even the slightest thing at impact, is verey very verey difficult. to get there, you HAVE to change other dynamics. first off, to even be in a position to have your hands forward, you have to have a lot of external rotation in your lower body so it is pivoting as quickly as it can over your posted lead leg. and to have that, you have to have a great backswing and be in proper position, etc., etc., what is the point? chipotle - if you were able to add in more and significant bend in your whole downswing by just thinking about then executing, i would say you are probably a gifted athlete. probably more gifted than me. for me, especially when i was trying to become a driver/holder and decided i would be best off by being like lee westwood and padraig harrington (pro flippers), i wish i could have become a driver/holder that easily.
  14. Tom

    My Swing (Tom)

    Rusty, You are too nice. Thanks. Tom
  15. Tom

    My Swing (Tom)

    michael, thanks for the comment and you're right. getting the handle more forward at impact is a trait of all great and legendary swings. when you inspect the video closely at slow speed ( i use V1 and 240fps video so i can break down all aspects of the swing and know what to work on), the handle is forward. not forward by sergio's standards, but forward enough. what is enough? i've done a lot of work on this... enough is simple and is measurable precisely with video. if you strike the ball with the handle back of ball, you CANNOT control the direction of the golf ball, you have glancing blows and you cannot control distance because you add loft to the club face. this describes most amateurs, and me, when i first started playing. if your hands are equal to the ball you all of a sudden gain better control of the direction, and have better distance control. this describes most good amateurs. if your hands get ahead of the ball, an advanced player shows this trait, you gain even better directional control. but, one of the hardest things to do in golf is change your impact condition by a single inch, two or even three. getting your hands forward is not just a simple matter. it requires an overhaul of the entire swing. mostly a fuller body rotation, better spine angle, impeccable weight shift and lateral bend will get arms/hands in position to be more forward, but i digress. there are three impact types. driver/holder (sergio, tiger), flipper (westwood), roller (mickelson). all have had great successes with their individual swing/impact types. i'm a "pro" level flipper and i'm totally ok with it. i don't flip with chips, pitches or other similar shots (e.g. 67yd pitch to a tight pin), but a flipper none the less. can i change? well, i guess i could, but i have hit a million or more balls and have gotten the flip down. :-)
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