ElGuapo_1992

Gross is king when playing for the club championship. Most golfers aren’t playing for that. If it was a tourney to see who the best golfer was, then most of our members not signing up for that.

What is your basis for saying a +2 has almost zero chance to win Net? Isn't the handicap system to provide a basis for leveling golfers of different skills? As a data point, the plus handicapped teams won 1st and 2nd in BOTH gross and net in our last big Saturday event. Clean sweep. I hear that argument a lot though...plus handicaps have zero chance to win Net. If I get 7 pops against a plus 2, I think its going to be close...definitely I do not think I'm a huge favorite to win in that scenario.

For clarity, these are events where you pick your partners, Our club mixes and matches for our weekly events to even the teams. But our larger events where you pick who you want to play with is where my frustration is....we aren't playing for the club championship...fun-based, and I think the odds to win should be fair. Last year 2-man pick your poison event, a plus 2 and plus 1 won 700$ playing poorly for themselves but still winning gross. When me and my partner play poorly for ourselves, we have zero chance to win gross or net.

Maybe this analogy will clear up the reasoning. I'm a 5 handicap and I am playing a plus 2 handicap. We are playing for 100$. 50$ goes to the winner of gross and $50 goes to the winner of net. What's my chances of winning Gross? I have a 50/50 chance to win Net but my chance to beat a plus handicap straight up not very good. Expand this to 12 players in A-flight ranging from +2 to a 5. $600 goes to the gross flight winner. $600 to the net flight winner. The odds of the plus 2 winning any money significantly higher than the 5 handicap. Why should the 5 go in with lower chances to win money in a fun-based event? And for the keeping more people in the hunt comment...the plus handicaps are in the hunt for both net and gross. My proposal is instead of paying top 2 net and gross, just pay the the top 4 net....so, not lowering the number of winners, just paying out where the odds are more fair.

How do other clubs do it for tournaments? My club has various 2 man and 4 man events and the way they do it is to pay both gross and net per flight. They take the 36 teams, split them into three groups of 12 based on handicaps. Half the money paid out to both gross and net in each flight. My thought is paying out gross is simply not fair. A couple of 5 handicappers get thrown into A-flight and forced to play straight up against a couple of plus handicaps for half the prize money. Or if the two 5 handicaps fall into B-flight, then a 10 and 12 cap team is forced to play them straight up for half the prize money. Is there any logic to paying Gross in these primary fun-based tournaments? Thanks