Billy Bondaruk

Sorry unbiased not bias or (umbias Slover UT) and I never said you couldn't make up your own mind. I also don't think this is about Koolade. It's about a very old system that has been around since the early 1900's and a few groups of people that are marketing a simular system with thier own logos attached for the simple fact of building business. However, since I am as well In the business of instruction, My purpose in reading this post is to get it right, weather that's for you SloverUt or not, you drink what ever Koolade you want. Now, on to the next question, and thanks for asking, mvmac, I' m not really buying that swing catalyst can tell us what this study is showing. If you got on those force plates and did a true Stack and Tilt swing, you would tilt left extend and rotate. Erik was flexed forward on his 3 rd exaggerated attempt with enormous hip rotation forward. Not very Stack and Tilt would you agree? Anyway, how about doing a flamingo drill on the new toy(swing catalyst ) and stopping at the top. Without moving the body at all, put pressure onto the rt ball of the foot and then take it off to see what the numbers show. Old force plates show that as a tour pro takes the club back their weight goes from 100%at address to 125% that's just in the take way. They are pushing downward. We're talking about pressure here and even thou this study was done in slow motion, it doesn't mean that the subject, Erik wasn't pushing into the plate under his right foot harder than necessary, if he was inclinded to do so. Especially since its about 5sk and the completion, Stack and Tilt. Pressure is an interesting thing. Take a pit bull for example and measure how much pressure they have in a square inch of their jaws as they are chewing something. You can stand with a nice tilt left as a right handed player and create pressure under the ball of the rt foot. But like I said I dont have a swing Catalyst to show you those numbers. And for the record, I'm Not trying to defend Stack and Tilt here or dismiss what 5SK is saying. I just want to better the game make some money and not try to Rip someone else apart in the procession since the theory came from the 1900's anyway.

Im not really completely buying what your saying here. I think you should post this at the Bio- Mechanics Group on FaceBook I would love to hear their comments since they are completely Bias. Then you can really stand by this study to take down two guys that have been trying to better the game of Golf.

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Thanks iacas, I do understand the hand foot relationship of a sprinter, lets call that address for a golf swing. But what about transition hand off the ground body leaning forward and pressure on the blocks. More of a dynamic motion, right? We say that we can't measure weight in a dynamic system, but we can all see it, in certain examples like this. I can appreciate the numbers you guys came up with and they are surprising. There was one extreme video posted by Erik of the third swing, it looked nothing like a Stack and Tilt movement, in fact it looked like an example of what they say is very wrong. I think someone else eluded to it. It was the extreme weight forward movement he made with his pelvis forward to get like 80/20 on the left side. His body was still flexed forward to keep his head still even though it dropped. What would the numbers be if he extended his spine and tilted left, maybe way left, like head forward left with same trail leg straightening. That hip pendulum swing with head movement forward would look more like a Stack and Tilt swing and since we know from your studies at the PGA show with the swing catalyst that the straightening of trail leg adds pressure on the trail side. But, since we all don't have Swing catalyst , could you enlighten us on what those numbers would be with an extreme left tilt extension. Pressure wise of course?

Great work Erik J. Barzeski. I was just wondering about weight and pressure. For example, When a sprinter is in the starting block where is his weight and where is his pressure? Is it possible for weight to be leaning forward and pressure to be pushing downward and back to create a movement? Weight and pressure being so different.