yrew

True that. Without curaçao we wouldn't have been anywhere. The facilities in the Netherlands are kinda crap.

The dutch also have a somewhat good team. We won the world championship in 2011 and are the best in Europe.

You could try following the Champions League. Could be a bit less overwhelming.

Messi the best player. Who would have thought..... If think the group phase was the most fun to watch this cup. Didn't see a lot of finals that stood out appart except for Germany - Brazil off course.

Stop messing with my feelings.

Congratulations.

I like it so far.

Should have been another card. Within 8 minutes I have my opinion about this ref.

And his name is?

That's a tough question. But for defense I nominate Ron Vlaar.

They come from the FIFA website. Now they wouldnt lie now won't they ;)

I thought I had those stats posted but I havent and I deleted my txt file with the tables but look at http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/statistics/players/attacking.html Messi had 7 solo's into the area. Robben had 17.

I came to the same conclusion as you did after seeing the stats. I guess for me my bias comes from being Dutch. And the only thing I hear about Messi is that he is so great, so good, the best, pisses pure gold, shits diamonds etc etc etc. When someone tells me a movie is the best movie he has ever seen and it beats every movie out there I am kinda expecting a lot. But in comparrison based on stats he is indeed better.....but not that much and certainly not worth the extra oooh's and aaah's and appart from running, Robben had a bit more solos and I think that made him more dangerous

I was talking about who I thought was the best off those four players and I thought you continued along side that discussion. I misunderstood you.