NorthShoreGolf

Because the easiest shot for a beginner to hit is a half or three quarter sand wedge or a full 60*. If you could take 220-230 off the tee with an easy driver or full 3w you'd have a better chance with a 7/8/9 as a beginner. That's how I'd advice most newbies anyways. Just because you're shooting for bogey golf doesn't mean you should play every hole to +1.

That is effectively the same thing as "course management," and this is what Fourputt was trying to tell you. You're advocating playing within your abilities, which usually means hitting shorter clubs, which is the same thing as saying "minimize your risk of hitting a bad driver/3w/etc., by playing par+1 and playing shorter clubs". We all agree to some degree, you're just saying the same thing in a different way without realizing it. Course management and player ability are intrinsically connected.

Just play to bogey/GIR+1, especially on longer holes, and you should be ok. There are a couple holes on my home course that if I miss the drive I just play to bogey, and play bogey to even off the drive. But then there are some shorter 4's I play to par. For me 3's are always to par and 5's are usually to par. Loosely this works for where I am. Each golfer needs to decide for themselves where they are and figure out what is going to challenge them without frustrating them. What fun would it be if you could never hit a birdie?

I'll hit some shag balls--balls I've found on the course, sometimes nice but never in new condition--when on the range to get a feel for distance with an actual ball. Never would I buy a box, especially expensive balls, and start hitting them. You've got to be nuts, if you can afford that you should be playing at a country club with a free range!

That annoys me. People who are slow to do everything . Much the as riders on path only days that walk across the fairway to check out their lie without bringing a handful of clubs. A bit of common sense would help!

Quote: Question, why would the teeing group feel better letting the errant shot taker go first? That hypothetical is the key to the entire issue. If there is a slower group ahead of the group on the tee (maybe just out of sight) they will soon catch up with anyways they may let the errant shot player hit his ball. It's a slow afternoon and they group on the tee is having a few brews and taking it easy, joking around, maybe they let it slide because it's no rush. The group on the tee side bets $1000 the hacker can't get it back out of their fairway in x amount of shots, you have to let him go. Phil hit an errant tee shot, who wouldn't let him play it out? There are plenty of hypotheticals.

If I play there often I'd have no problem. Find a muni with a decent green/chipping area and don't even bother asking!

Really? If I got paired up with somebody who paid less than me because they booked through a discounter I'd want that information. It's not like they discriminated. No matter what I paid I expect to get the same treatment as anyone else. This would be highly unprofessional behavior of management/crew/whomever to treat people worse because the booked through a discounter. If this is policy the course should not be working with discounters, and I would not be back at any price.

If there is no trash barrel/tee collector where do you put it? It's not like you're throwing plastic bottles around. I'm not about having a pocket full of used tees on me walking around the course. I will reuse my tees and do remove them from the box, usually I stick one in my hat as I hate playing with stuff in my pockets. But if it's smashed I throw it to the side (there are usually a few hanging around) Point being: it seems to be generally acceptable to toss broken tees aside if no receptacle is present on or reasonably close to the box.

Just to clarify by previous thread: I never hit into anybody, but by the time the 4th ball was hit into me within close range it was not going to stay where it stopped. The vast vast majority of people I've met on the course have been great. There are a few in every crowd, and then some who are really bad!

Something similar happened to me at the beginning of the season. We were playing a quick 9 before work, myself, a friend, a co-worker, and the boss. We had a slow group in front of us and had to hang back. The course was open enough that this should have been obvious to the people behind us. 2nd hole is a downhill par 4 dogleg left. I throw my tee shot out around 250 and walk down to the ball. I'm sitting there waiting to hit 100 into the green that the foursome of ladies is front of us is still on. I look back to the guys on the tee lining up. "He's just taking a practice swing." Nope, hits into me, ball lands 25 feet short of me. I throw up my hands to let him know he's coming too close I'm not too pissed, it happens. His partner proceeds to tee up and hit one within 15 feet of me! Now I'm pissed. We play the hole and while waiting on the next tee the group avoid us, no apology despite the cold stare I'm giving them from across the green. 7th hole is a long par 3. We finish up and are walking to the next tee, the green we just left is a good distance to the right of us. I'd feel it's safe to hit if I were them, and they do so. One guy shanks it and line drives literally between the 4 of us. Almost catches by buddy in the gut. NO fore, NO heads up, nothing. No apology as they drive up, they actually drove around the other side of the green. 9th hole three of us hit our drives 225-250 (I used a 3 wood, usually goes about 230). We're standing there waiting for the group in front of us to vacate the tee and we get hit into again! The ball literally bounces up and rolls by our feet. I turn around and consider shooting it back at them, but, this is not a good idea. I was so pissed however I did hit the guy's ball into the pond next to us. Normally I wouldn't think of doing such a thing, but this is 3 times, all close, and all obvious. By the time we're on the green the kid comes up to us (he's my age-26) and tell us he didn't think he could drive it that far. I'm sorry, I hit a 3-wood, and this is a twenty-something year old who looks to be in decent shape with a driver in his hands. No f*%^ing way! We ripped into him for a while. The starter is then walking towards us, and we think we're going to get asked politely not to come back. He asks if the "a