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How to Effectively Create Lag on the Downswing
Jumbo Debt replied to mvmac's topic in Swing Thoughts
Two moves I like on the downswing while maintaining the same spine angle as at address: 1) Turn hips to the left. 2) Come into impact with hands low. -
Tiger Woods like Greg Norman before him, and Tom Watson before him, and Johnny Miller, and Jack Nicklaus, and Sam Snead... These are the some of the main players who have made golf popular over the decades. So every pro owes part of his paycheck to Tiger in a way because he has caused evrybody's paycheck in golf to grow not just his own. I watch the San Francisco Giants yet I haven't played ball since Babe Ruth League in the sixties. All golf fans aren't necessarily players even though many are. And again it's more often not the Tiger Woods' of this world that attracts those fans just like the Yankees have attracted a lot of people to baseball just because they won so much. Your saying that pros like yourself only care that there are spectators and could care less WHY they happen to be is really good for golf in general. Years ago there were fewer golf courses so the game was a lot more expensive to play than it is today. The more popular golf gets the cheaper it gets to play. I mean fot the regular working man. Which brings us back to Tiger because he has been the one pro in the past 17 years who's done the most to popularize the game. And this in turn has made the game a lot more affordable for people like me. So, thank you Tiger Woods!
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How to Effectively Create Lag on the Downswing
Jumbo Debt replied to mvmac's topic in Swing Thoughts
Let me add that at 5' 4" and 135 lbs I need to use my hands in order to get the clubhead moving. It was suggested to me that being of slight stature it would benefit me to cock my wrists early in my backswing. After a a year or two of practicing and trying to wrap my head around this idea the work is finally paying off. I finally understand this idea of the sequence of movement in the Five Lessons. -
How to Effectively Create Lag on the Downswing
Jumbo Debt replied to mvmac's topic in Swing Thoughts
I tried to 'manufacture' lag for years but without success. Recently I have followed the advice of taking the club back with my left arm only while at the same time setting my wrists in a cocked position early in the backswing. It has improved everything. Finally I hit the ball farther with my irons with a better ball fight and more control. In the backswing I now have time to think about putting my right elbow into my side on the downswing whereas before everything was rushed and off balance trying to 'create' this lag thing. -
There is something wrong with Chamblee... I understand he's disappointed that Woods has had some problems. And I think the fact there was a scandal involving Tiger and his family life has really affected Chamblee's judgment. I may be wrong but he seems to be looking for a problem with Tiger ever since that sordid affair. In a country where stars are built only to be torn down Tiger has been a target. Everybody is so disappointed Woods is a human beeing and not that Disney character the media used to sell golf. On another note I really don't think Chamblee is a racist so that can be ruled out as a reason for his non stop criticism of Tiger Woods. No I really believe this obsession Brandel has with pointing out what Tiger needs fixing is a reflection of how Chamblee feels about his own inadequacies, as Freudian as that may sound. Because it really makes no sense to be constantly pointing out Woods' problems when if we were to stop and realize it he's talking about the second or third greatest player to have ever played the game of golf. I don't think Chamblee's mean spirited but I think he should give Johnny Miller a call and learn a thing or two about what to say, what not to say, how to say it, and how not to say it.
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I think Chamblee has a problem with himself that he projects onto Tiger Woods. The problem Chamblee has is he only has one win on the PGA tour and his best show in a major was 18th at the Masters back in 1989 or something. Either that or it might have something to do with his upbringing if you know what I mean.
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"Miller's the only golf commentator I can stomach." These aren't my words they're Ben Hogan's
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I don't understand. Are you saying Johnny Miller doesn't know how to hit a cut? I didn't hear him make the comment you said he made regarding that particular shot by Tiger. Not trying to defend Miller I would guess he was describing an unwanted effect on the part of Tiger who mistakingly opened the face of his club at impact. I think you'll agree it's a mistake that can happen for any number of reasons. I mean, all I'm saying is there can be no doubt about the fact Johnny Miller knows how to hit cuts and hooks, or any kind of golf shot, don't you think? Or maybe it was his wording you objected to...
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How do YOU hit a cut?
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Have I insulted you? Feherty was compared to Johnny Miller. I responded saying Feherty wasn't in the same class as an expert on the game as Miller is. I later added some stuff about Feherty's character because frankly some of his statements away from golf insulted me. I only meant to point out Johnny Miller never allowed himself to be that kind of a jerk even though some people take exception to his conclusions pertaining to the game of golf and some of the pros playing it. What's more Feherty never apologised for his un-patriotic statements.
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Sometimes the truth hurts...
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In the commentating department David Feherty was compared to Johnny Miller. I objected saying Feherty was generally speaking a 'B' player on the Euro Tour. You said no 'B' players went to the Ryder Cup. I said they did, using Boo as an example. Bottom line, Johnny Miller knows what he's talking about. And actually I do like Feherty's comments. I think he knows the game. I also really like Gary Koch. And I think Judy Rankin is one of the best. But back to business, I love to learn things about the golf swing and golf game strategy. I think nobody in the commentating business does more than Johnny Miller in the way he studies the course where the tournament is being played right down to all the breaks on all the greens. No one is more informative. At the other end of the spectrum from Johnny Miller are the British commentators who sound like they're commentating a dog race. And it's a real long dog race with a lot of dead air. There is an American who does comment from time to time on those Euro tournaments on the golf channel and I thank God he's there when he is because otherwise it's like wtching grass grow a lot of the time.
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Boo has played some good golf although not of late. He is a PGA Tour pro in the top 125 or so but HE'S NO JOHNNY MILLER.
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We've all been through a lot...
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No 'B' players at the Ryder Cup... Then what was Boo Weekley doing there a couple o' years ago?
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Feherty... His over-the-top American patriot routine get's to me. He was a supporter of the British control of Northern Ireland over there and he's sticking with the same 'power gang' over here sucking up to the Republicans every chance he gets. On a human and/or political level I hate him but he's a real good golf commentator so I like to hear what he says on ther air when it pertains to golf, and only when it pertains to golf. I'd just like to see him have a little more gratitude towards Ireland and that culture that gave him his gift of the gab in the first place. As for his politics in America it just shows me his love of money and fear of not having it takes over his obvious above average intelligence. As for Johnny Miller he's just golf all the way, as was Ben Hogan. A lot of people don't like the Hogans and Millers of this world. Way back when, people hated one Jack Nicklaus for exactly the same reason. Whatever gets you through the day...
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I'm guessing you prefer the entertainment aspect of golf commentating to the game of golf itself because comparing Feherty's opinions, which I happen to like, to Miller's is like comparing Jack to your club pro. Feherty's was at his career best a 'B' player on the Euro Tour, whereas Miller was a major tournament winner on the U.S. PGA Tour. I don't really care about Miller's personality, which a lot of people take exception to. The same people like to bash Ben Hogan... Personally I could care less about any pro golfer's personality. I'm a golf fan, period. And when it comes to golf I prefer Miller's comments to any other commentator's because I always learn something about the game when I listen to him. One thing I'll say about Miller, he's never bashed the President of the United States. I can't say that much for that little landed immigrant Northern Irishman by the way...
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Ha! Ha! Ha! Johnny Miller's an idiot? I'd like to know what your handicvap is. One thing's for sure, if you think Miller's an idiot that handicap's at least in double digits.
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Anyone not interested in what Johnny Miller has to say is not really interested in golf. I could care less about whatever else he talks about but about golf he's the best commentator out there. One thing I appreciate from him is he NEVER talks about what he guesses a player is thinking. That, by the way is the one type of commentating that really enerves me. No, Miller ONLY talks about golf and I'd add he's virtually never wrong about the type of shot needed in a given situation and I appreciate that he takes the time to explain exactly how to execute it. Again, as for the rest of what he might wander off talking about it really doesn't bug me enough to bare mentionning. I love this guy as a commentator.