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Wow Pretzel thats an impressive list. I was not expecting a response that well thought through and with that much research. Thank you very much for putting that together. I actually have a set of eye 2's still. They need grips and they would be good to go. Your list has me considering going Mizuno. They seem to have a cult like following. I love Titleist but i personally think of everything titleist to be unforgiving even if its actually not.

I am sure I am not the only guy that has ever had this feeling, but I just don't know what to buy. I have been hitting a set of DCI 762's for I don't even know how long. 10 years maybe? I finally stashed away enough cash to go buy whatever I want, but now that I am here I don't know what to get. I know what characteristics I am looking for in an iron, but there are just soo many options and everyone thinks a certain set or brand is the best and my head is spinning trying to wade through all of it. I thought maybe going to the PGA Superstore and hitting all of them myself would help solve my dilemma but it didn't at all. I went there thinking I was going to hit the Speedblades and fall in love, but it really didn't play out that way. I am scared of having a gap between the Speedblade pitching wedge and my gap wedge and having to relearn all of my distances again. All I want is consistent distances, forgiving mishits, and the less offset the better. I play a draw already and I don't need any help getting it to turn left. Not worried about working it and not worried about a thick topline. I want the ball to go straight and I want to know how far it is going to go and that is it. I subconsciously would probably prefer a gamer iron, but I really don't care. I just want to hit more greens. If the damn club is pink and it helps me hit more GIR sign me up. TLDR; I am looking for a straight, forgiving, and distance consistent iron so I can hit more greens and shoot better scores.

Shot a 75 with a really dumb double bogey. Thanks Budweiser. 72.1/138 6,780 yards

75 on 18. 36 on 9. The back nine on my home course is 9 of the most unforgiving holes I have ever played. I have shot 36-37 on the front many, many times only to turn around and shoot a 45 on the back. Actually shot a 38 on the front today, and a 44 on the back.

So I gave it the old college try and I must admit it worked pretty well. I also got a lesson at the same time and told him about the advice you gave me and he agree. He also tried to address the root cause as well to try to fix it. We dabbled with ball placement some, we tried steepening my swing (but that made just hit really bad shots,) and then he noticed my hips weren't clearing and I was kind of swinging around my body. I have mixed a slightly open face with focusing on the hips and it is a much better result. Still a draw but a much more controllable one. Thanks for the advice mac.

Will do. Range tomorrow after work. I'll post my results.

I play my driver like a half a ball off the inside of my left foot but i put the three wood a ball or so in front of the center of my stance. I hit a baby draw with my driver but my 3 wood looks like a reverse image of a a banana slice

Part of me thinks moving the ball back or forward in my stance might do the trick. Maybe its too far back and I am coming at it really hard from the inside. It starts on my target line for like 75-100 yards then exits stage left hard

Toe hits are my usual miss Mac but I hook with the fairway woods even on center hits

Thanks for the tip. I tweaked my back today playing and I can barely walk or I'd go back out the range and try it. Def hoping its something simple like that. Ball position or forward press or something easily fixable. I'll try it and report back. Thanks again.

Haven't posted on here in a while. Work, school, and fiancee have been taking up alot of my time. I have been working really hard on my swing for the last few months, and I finally broke 80 for the first time this season this weekend, and I shot a really easy 37 this morning. If I hadn't missed a few easy birdie opportunites I would have been in the red. But here's my question. I have been taking lessons, joined a club, and am playing a whole whole bunch. I have the driver under control. I have the irons under control (except for 3-4 but I don't think many people ever really dial those in.) But I cannot hit a fairway wood. I have flattened my swing and am playing a draw and it works great on irons and driver, but I don't know if its the way they are weighted or the shaft in them or what but fairway woods seem to magnify my flat inside out swing to the extreme. Driver I aim right edge of the fairway and draw it back in. Irons I aim a certain amount right depending on the loft of the club and how much I can turn it. 3 Wood I might as well aim 40 yards into the right woods because it turns left really really hard. I wouldn't classify it as a snap hook, because it still goes 250-260 and it's got a nice trajectory, but it just turns sooo much I can't control it. I have tried weakening my grip some, even to the point of a hogan style right forearm above the left style, and tried combining with a steeper backswing and more down the line or even across the ball type of path, and it just doesn't work. When I try to make it not hook I either push it or hit it straight left. I would prefer to hit it straight or hit a baby draw but I can't find any sort of middle ground with it. It's either a 75 yard hook, or a completely unpredictable push or pull. It doesn't make sense because even at some of my worst ball striking periods I was always fairly confident with the 3 wood. Now I am hitting the ball as good as I have in my adult life probably and it's the worst club in the bag for me. I'd rather have to try to fly a 3 iron to a small green with water in front and ob behind it than to have to try to hit a 3 wood into a 250 yard wide fairway. And here's my scorecard from this morning which I wanna show off just because I am excited to see all my hard work paying off. Played from the silvers. And as always any advice is appreciated.

I hit the range everyday its just hard to drag my fiancee out to the range to record it. I have tried sitting my phone on my bag and all kinds of stuff but it never leads to good footage. I haven't had any issues with leaving the face open thinking about the right elbow actually. It's the only swing thought i have found so far that helps me produce any lag. My miss since I have been doing that is actually a hook not a block so releasing the face isn't an issue. Do you have a hard time when you make full swings with trying to crush the ball? Sometimes even if I think easy swing right before I hit it I get the club going down and I just black out muscle the hell out of it. (With what little muscle I have lol.) Going to try the half swings and stuff tomorrow

Maybe I don't have enough bend at the waist and my body is in the way of my arms?

Looks I am still not keeping that right heel down long enough too. Thanks for any feedback in advance! Edit: Also wondering if maybe my right elbow is getting too far back behind me. Like almost past the seam. Couldn't that make it harder to get the elbow back around in front of my hip?

Update: Tried what you said JD924 and was struggling with getting it right so I did some more research and the thought I am using which is doing the same thing I think is to get my right elbow back over my right hip. Feel like it helps me get more lag and in a better position at impact. Still working. Still not getting as far as I want and getting as much lag as I want but ball striking has felt alot better. Here's some videos and a pic. Here's a 3 Iron DTL And a 5 Iron from the side and DTL And a comparison to a picture mvmac showed me of the Duffdaddy. I feel like I am getting closer. Still am not getting that right elbow back over my right hip enough. Maybe I am coming from inside a little too much and it doesn't have enough room to clear. Not sure just gotta keep plugging at it. Either way I feel like I have better lag and shaft lean.

Couldn't video it today. It was sprinkling at the range and I was by myself. Didn't want to get my phone wet. Do you have trouble striking the ball well when you stop for a few seconds at the top? It feels like my arms lose all sense of the slot after I stop and I can't strike the ball well at all. Fat, thin, the whole lot. I strike it so badly I couldn't hardly notice any positive results. Maybe its just going to take alot of pracitce. Stopping just makes it feel like I have never hit a golf before lol. I feel so awkward and confused after I stop.

Time to be a stupid monkey I guess

Alright I will. I did some work at the range holding off for a second before I swing, and I already really feel in my new swing like I am swinging all arms. I have only been back playing for a month or so and I have been doing all this stuff really wrong for my whole life. Trying to think about hips and plane and right heel and shoulder turn and keeping head steady and blah blah. So much to correct. Kinda get overloaded sometimes. I am hitting the range in the morning though and I will dedicate a lot of time (honestly probably most of it) to stopping at the the top for a few seconds and letting my arms go first. Will get back to you tomorrow with my results. Thanks again for the feedback jd. I really appreciate it.

Full front driver swing sequence

Here's an update. I have been working pretty hard on quieting my hips as much as I can. Feel like I have def made some progress. Better results with the irons than the driver for sure. Shot an 81 today and didn't hit a single push off the tee. Ball flight has been much lower and better. Had 7 pars in a row to start the round today. Spun a 9 iron 10 feet back off the green on a soaking wet green. My ball striking felt really good today. Did some dumb stuff on the back to earn me a pair of double bogeys or I might have shot 77-78. It was cold and raining and my morale got lower the wetter I got. Oh well. Here's some videos and pics. Driver Full Speed Driver Slow Motion 9 Iron Full Speed 9 Iron Slow Motion View of my right heel and hip position at impact. Feel like I am doing a much better job with the irons of keeping my right heel planted longer and not spinning out. Same view with driver. Not quite as good of a job of keeping that right heel planted with the driver but I am working on it. Thanks for any feedback ahead of time. Hitting the range again Tuesday morning before work to keep putting in the hours.

I have recently been shown that I really really get carried away and fire the crap out of my hips way early and end up completely wide open at impact which has really been causing some consistency problems for me. Totally spinning out. I have seen the 5sk video on keeping your back toes up and I have heard to flair your right toe even more to the rear. Those helped me some but I have still been having a little difficulty getting it right. (I have been obsessively taking practice swings every chance I get for the last 24 hours.) It's hard to stop yourself from doing something you have been wrongly ingraining into your swing for 15 years and tonight I found another little thing that I really like. When you address the ball turn your lead toe inwards some. It feels like it makes getting your weight to the front a little more difficult so if you struggle with that I guess it could possibly be harmful, but for me it really takes my hips out of it a lot and makes me really have to swing more with my arms which I personally find very hard to do. It also helps me with the sensation of rolling my ankles to the left side some and keeping my right heel down longer. Hopefully someone else has this old baseball swing type of problem and this could possibly help you out. Thanks!

Lol you may as well have said that in Japanese. Hopefully i won't develop a shank lol. I am a pretty good ball striker even with my messed up hips. Hoping my athletic ability will continue to cover up my flaws.

In a different way thats pretty much what mike with 5sk said. Said i was spinning out early with my hips. Found a few of their videos to help me out. And yep i do hit it high. very very high with my driver. I am going to hit the range this week and work on it. Thanks for the tip and for sharing man. I appreciate it.

Thank you very, very much Mike. I was always taught that sliding forward was bad and that they should turn growing up which is obviously not true. Probably what lead to such a big flaw. I will check out the thread and the video and hopefully I can get some good results. Got a tournament in September I am trying to get ready for. I really appreciate it.