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- Index: 3.2
- Plays: Righty
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It depends on how much you want to curve it. If I need to hit a huge, low cut I am going to pull out a 4 iron. Setup with an open stance and the club face more open than normal. I actually try to alter my swing path and swing out to in while leaving the face open and adding a great deal of shaft lean. Another option if you only need a small cut/would rather not try to alter your swing path is to set up with an open stance, open club face and take a normal swing while delofting the club face.
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How to Hit a Driver (Hit it Further and Stop Slicing!)
smaug81243 replied to mvmac's topic in Swing Thoughts
I'll powder the face and check the next time I am at the range. Will also look at getting a video to start a swing thread. -
How to Hit a Driver (Hit it Further and Stop Slicing!)
smaug81243 replied to mvmac's topic in Swing Thoughts
Not all that new but as I keep improving as a player this is now my major weakness. Last few rounds my driver has probably averaged 2 penalty strokes a round on a wide open course from putting it in hazards. I don't really care about whether I play a draw, fade or straight ball with driver, I just want to be able to do one consistently enough without huge curvature. -
How to Hit a Driver (Hit it Further and Stop Slicing!)
smaug81243 replied to mvmac's topic in Swing Thoughts
I'm having issues with consistency using this method. Trying to hit up on the ball and approximately half are very straight or a small pull fade. The other half are either large pull draws or a straight fade that starts dead center and slices 30+ yards. Any thoughts what is going on with these misses? Ball position too forward? Hitting too far up on the ball? -
Non Golfer Bought House on Golf Course - Questions
smaug81243 replied to sbrady19's topic in Golf Talk
The distances between tees varies on each hole. For the hole you overlook the difference might be 10 feet, for another hole it might be 75 yards. You should go to a driving range and see how difficult it is to consistently hit a ball on target. You bought the house on the golf course, you assume the risk. It sounds like you also purchased a house in one of the worst possible locations (a short to moderate distance in front of the tee boxes). Perhaps you should have done a bit more research when making a purchase as large as a house. -
New golfer looking for a bit of advice
smaug81243 replied to bbwrenn's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Get the lessons but make sure you get them from a reputable instructor. I went with lessons upon starting and had a rather poor instructor. He was able to hammer in the concept of weight forward but wasn't good at teaching much else. If you want to develop a few good habits before you start lessons take a look at the 5 simple keys videos and begin with mirror work! It will be much more productive than heading to the range and just beating balls initially. -
It completely depends on what you need to improve as to which is more effective. As a 35 handicap I'd imagine you still have major flaws in technique. I would recommend fixing those for pitching while taking lessons or practicing the full swing. I'd suggest starting with the pitching technique posted in instruction and playing tips (will link to it later when I'm not on my phone). It's pretty easy to learn, fairly forgiving and will at least allow you to get the ball on the green once you get reasonably close. The 5 simple keys video threads are another place you will want to look for full swing help. Once you start getting to the point where you aren't worried about hitting the ball solidly is when the course can be much more beneficial for improvement. Play as much as you want and have fun with it but the most efficient way to improve at your skill level is going to be practice.
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A procedure similar to drops for water could be used. Drop in the exact location of where the other ball was or in a direct line behind it as far back as you would like to go, no closer to the hole of course. I'm sure there are other issues with my proposed change (that will never happen, yes, I recognize this) but I doubt that they couldn't be solved relatively easily.
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Although I still believe it would be a reasonable rule change, I do like these arguments: On another side note, what on earth is going on with my picture. I definitely didn't set it up to be anything. Is the default barney just to get people to change it? Note to self, change it when I get home tonight :D
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Subtlety has never been your strong suit! But, like I said, we will have to agree to disagree. If you know your ball is one of the two and you intentionally take the worse lie/position you gain nothing. I believe that is a more reasonable (and saves time) solution than the current rule of reteeing. Perhaps i'm too young and too new to golf to value the tradition of golf as heavily as you. And to reiterate again, I agree the solution makes it irrelevant but for some reason I see it happening again in the future.
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5/5 Made me laugh! I agree, simple solution that solves the problem but in this case a man who apparently follows the rules very closely had not marked his ball. I'm sure it will happen again with another individual. We will have to agree to disagree on this. Modifying that rule to something along the lines of: Play the ball furthest from the hole or play the ball with the worse lie/worse situation is not anywhere close to the same magnitude as allowing a King of the United States of America in my mind. On a side note, thanks for the content in the lowest score wins/videos you have posted here. They have helped me a lot and helped take me from complete hacker to the ability to get the ball airborne (usually)/moving forward :D
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Quote: Originally Posted by Fourputt You make assumptions which may or may not apply in a given case. The OP states that they were playing on a relatively empty course and did nothing to hold up play for anyone else. It is irrelevant whether the course was empty or completely packed. If you are going a rule such as this one 100% of the time there are plenty of times in which you will add 10 minutes to a round to walk back to the tee, hit and repeat the process in the fairway. Quote: The rules are not at fault for slow play, uneducated golfers are the fault. I play by the rules and I play fast, as do most of the guys I play with. The two are not mutually exclusive. My understanding is that rounds on the PGA tour are not particularly fast. Are they uneducated golfers as well? Sure, they are playing for lots of money but they certainly aren't uneducated in regards to golf. Quote: The rules are based on certain fundamental principles which have been the foundation for the game for 400 years. The USGA and R&A; shy away from any modifications which weaken those principles beyond what is absolutely necessary to allow the player to play the game. What would have happened to the US constitution had we left it as it is rather than amend it over time? Just because you created the game/rules/government does not mean that you were able to create rules that were ideal 400 years later. As society changes (into courses that are regularly packed on weekends) and complaints of slow play arise it is foolish to make small modifications. Based on your argument we should still be using the exact same equipment that golf began with. Quote: The rules are not at fault for slow play, uneducated golfers are the fault. I play by the rules and I play fast, as do most of the guys I play with. The two are not mutually exclusive. I agree that the rules are not the primary cause for slow play but do believe rules such as this one contribute to the problem. However, as noted by my comments about the PGA tour above, I believe placing the blame on uneducated golfers is foolish. A better fault for slow play is simply poor golfers. If you hack the ball around on your way to shooting 30, 40, 50 over par it's going to take some time. Even if you know all of the rules, and don't take much time with each shot. I appreciate the change in tone. A debate is much more conducive to a positive and interesting forum.
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[quote name="Fourputt" url="/t/76595/what-if-someone-else-hits-your-ball#post_1057571"] This is a rules forum so the answers given to questions must necessarily be correct by the Rules of Golf. If you have no interest in discussing the rules in the context of the question, or in learning about them, then maybe you clicked on the wrong forum heading. [/quote] Such an encouraging post to promote discussion. Since you make it sound like my post is completely irrelevant, and do so in a rude manner, let's have some fun with this. As I'm sure you know, the USGA has been attempting to tackle the issue of pace of play in recent years. Methods that have been discussed for shortening the amount of time a golf round takes have included larger holes, encouraging players to tee it forward, etc. Perhaps another way to boost pace of play would be to modify rules such as this. I mean, in this case, he clearly hit the ball in the fairway. Are we really going to waste time by having him walk all the way back to the tee, go through his preshot routine, hit another shot (hopefully in bounds), walk back to his ball and hit another shot. Your signature sums it up perfectly, "Your proper place on the course is directly behind the group in front of you, not directly ahead of the group behind you." By going back to the tee after hitting the ball in the fairway you are certainly not following this quote and not helping out pace of play. If it is a tournament or gambling is involved in the match, sure, going back to the tee is absolutely the correct play. But, if we want to boost the speed of rounds, why would we not elect to amend rules such as this? Perhaps you shouldn't be so quick to shut down posts in this forum heading that aren't strictly rule 18-1 says X and be more open to discussion of whether the specific rule/case even matters.
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This seems a little silly to me. Both balls were in the fairway (I'm assuming good lies on both) and 5 yards apart. Your score should be about the same from each position if you played them both thousands of times. If you aren't playing in a tournament just hit the ball.
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... From the ladies tees :D. 4990 yards, rated 68.5/111 for the ladies, unsure what it would be for the men. Next shortest tees are 5678 yards and are rated 67.4/110 for the men. Anyways, I had 4 birdies and 5 pars on the front for a 31 (par 71 course) and 2 birdies/2 bogeys/5 pars for a 36. Both bogeys were stupid mistakes. The first was on a short par 4 (about 270 yards) that is nearly impossible to drive as it is an elevated green with a 20-30 ft high rock wall blocking the front of it and almost no room behind it. I layed up to 150 yds (meant to lay up around 110 but mishit my tee shot) and decided to take an extra club because I was paranoid about coming up short and killing my score. Ended up flushing my shot and was 15 yards over the green into deep rough with an impossible up and down. The next mistake came a couple holes later on a drivable 270 yard par 4 with little trouble anywhere. I decided to pull driver after not hitting a single one all day and ended up putting one in a lateral hazard -_-. Out of curiosity, what's the lowest you guys have shot when playing it forward? This round really put the pros rounds in perspective. To think that anyone can shoot a 62 or 63 from yardages of 7k + is insane. The margin for error is so incredibly low.