I have to agree. I have been playing the pro v1x for years. I got fitted for a set of Ping i10's about 2 months ago and they sent them to me with the wrong shafts. The guy at the pro shop gave me about 2 dozen of the TP Red's for screwing up. I was skeptical, but thought what the heck, their FREE! My playing partner who is usually even with me in driving distance was amazed. I was out driving him by 20 yards. He also plays the Pro v1x. The held greens pretty good also. I could not make them spin like the pro v1x's, but that is an easy thing to adjust too. I have never like any Taylormade balls, but these are the real deal.