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  1. read this https://www.golfdigest.com/story/the-real-cause-of-slow-play-is The reason these courses are so slow is that the tee times are so close together. Most are 8 minutes apart. Can a group of 4 hit, drive out and all take their second shot in 8 minutes, probably not. And once they have to wait for their second shot because people are on the green suddenly it's 20. If a course has some tee times with 2 people and a couple empty tee times, it works. When every single tee time is 4 people, everyone waits and it takes 5.5 hours. So all golf courses would have to is charge everyone 15% more and space the tee times out properly and we could all play around in 3.5 hours. Naturally, if they ever did that they would soon get it in their head of all the lost revenue and take the time back and it would cost more. Its much worse in December that June. June has enough hours in the day, so just a little fewer people makes a big difference.
  2. We did 36 holes at Vista Valencia once. It used to be fine to play 3 years ago. It took me 10 minutes just to get through the line to check in. They lined us up and I waited 30 minutes to tee off. We finished hole one and waited a good 40 minutes to tee off on hole 2. I really don't play well finishing a hole and then waiting 30 minutes. I won't do Vista Valencia ever again.
  3. I have been in Simi about 5 years. They shut down one of the courses and the economy has got better and better. You use to be able to go out late and do a quick round, in the last year it's just been unbearable. There is usually a waiting list on weekends so any open spot gets filled. They push people out as quickly as they can. Golf courses have one priority, getting people to tee off as quickly as possible. They make sure another group is ready to hit the second the group ahead of them finishes their second shot. Now if you tee off 5 hours before sunset, you won't finish. One solution is to go a couple hours before sunset and just do 9, but my golf partner hates not finishing as he likes to track his scores. Any private club is going to cost 1500 per month.
  4. I live in Simi, north of LA. OC is too far.
  5. Late doesn't help unless you play so late you can only get in 5 holes. Its pretty impossible to get the first tee time of the day and you are playing in the dark the first two holes. I tried driving 30 minutes away and a bunch of courses and it doesn't seem to matter.
  6. I love golf but here in LA, it’s just too crowded. Its just got worse and courses just get greedier and try to cram even more people in a shorter period. The more people complain and give the courses terrible yelp reviews, the more they try to hurry everyone which since they send one group after another it does no good. Why hurry if you just after to wait 20 minutes to tee off on the next hole? Also in the golf courses have one person doing 2 jobs and you wait in line 10 minutes to by a 3$ bottle of water or to check in. Forget about getting a beer at the bar, the bartender is busy cooking or something. There is usually 2 or 3 of us playing and we always get paired up with an another to make it 4 and usually they are weird or terrible. Every round is 5 to 6.5 hours. Years ago, we played some of these courses in less than 3 hours. It doesn’t matter where we go, it’s the same shit. The marshall making sure everyone is in the next group's heels even though it does matter as you wait and wait anyway. Today my son and I went out and by the 2nd hole, there were 2 groups in front of us waiting to tee off. It was 30 minutes from finishing hole one to teeing off on hole 2. It took an hour and a half to play 2 holes and we just quit. Since the courses are packed, you would think they would just double the rates and fewer people would play and at least it would be fun again. Everyone is miserable and complains about how long it takes to play. Golf is getting as bad a the freeways. It seems there are 2 choices, bring a novel to read on the course and read it between shots and deal with horrible golf and never have a good game or just give up and do something else. We use to play 40 times per year and lately, we just don’t want to deal with the crowds. Should I just give and quit the game?
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