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  1. As a side note I do have one set of clubs aimed towards beginners and another set aimed towards better players and are "less forgiving". I honestly don't notice that much of a difference so I wonder if it's really that important.
  2. Hello Arturo28mx, Thanks for the response. I'm not sure the analogy fits my question very well though, or perhaps I didn't communicate my question well. To me it's not about "I want to learn to drive a car so I'll buy a Ferrari to force myself to learn to be a better driver.". I agree with you, I don't see how buying a Ferrari would make me a better driver than say, a Toyota Corolla. It's more like "I want to learn to learn to drive a manual sports car but manual sports cars usually have very precise clutches and don't offer the driver a large margin of error. Would it be better or faster for me to start by learning on a manual car whose clutch has a large margin of error and working my way up, or dive in the deep end right away and start with a manual car whose clutch has a small margin of error right off the bat." The way I see it, generally speaking, people learn and improve faster when they are forced to. It usually takes people a lot longer to learn or improve in something if there's no sense of urgency or necessity. Of course there are people who can keep themselves motivated and will learn or improve very quickly regardless; but generally speaking, urgency and necessity are very good motivators. My goal is to be able to consistently strike the ball in the center of the club face. My question is, would it be better to force myself to use less forgiving golf club heads right at the beginning, necessitating me to really focus on consistently striking the ball perfectly center right away. Or use more forgiving golf club heads at first and remove the necessity to strike the ball perfectly center every time since the club head will forgive off center strikes (to a certain extent). @arturo28mx
  3. Hi Everyone, I haven't responded in a while because I started taking lessons and I wanted to see how they pan out. I've improved greatly, though I've only been using my pitching wedge and 7 iron so far. I've used both my blades with the stiff shafts and my "game improvement" irons with regular shafts. and the flight trajectory and distance is the same. I just thought I'd give an update since I haven't replied in a little while. Thanks.
  4. Hello Darkfrog, I was hoping that I would be able to learn golf and not spend money on lessons but yeah, I'm coming around to the idea that if I want to progress further and faster, I'll need lessons. I asked the question of improving with "more difficult clubs" because I have a set of regular flex "game improvement" irons and driver/woods but I wanted to get blades and so I ended up getting some off the rack with stiff shafts because they weren't regular price. I figured I could always change the shafts if need be. Now at the time I couldn't even hit my game improvement irons most of the time but I started using my blades and I really progressed over the past year (at the range) in terms of ball striking and distance with my irons. I thought that maybe my ball striking progressed because the irons I was using punished my hands more on the mishits and the distance increased because my swing speed and tempo adapted to the stiffer shafts. But I don't know, it could just as easily have been because of I would have progressed like that anyway. I wanted to get other peoples opinion on this and it seems to be pretty conclusive that using harder to hit club heads and stiffer shafts might do more harm than good. It's not that I'm obsessed with increasing my swing speed or anything. I mean I want to hit farther and that might only come with a faster swing and tempo but it's more important to me to swing the correct shaft. Now, I did buy the Cobra Radspeed driver, and Cobra Tour and Big Tour woods with stiff shafts to go with my blades so we'll see how things develop but I can always use my other golf set if need be. Hello Shorty, I actually didn't read that anywhere, I came up with that erroneous conclusion all on my own 🙂. But I wouldn't be surprised if other people had the same idea. I do practice and play with my blades, I just say I practice because I spend 99% of my time at the driving range. I will say though, I did fall for the hype about blades. They're only marginally different from any other iron in terms of feel and forgiveness. I'm still glad to use them though because I've been toying with draws and fades, I really like the way they look, and I hit them as well as any other iron I've tried so why not? However, I have trouble hitting my 3, 4, 5, and 6 irons but even pros tend to swap those out with more forgiving irons. I agree though, people shouldn't get caught up in the hype and hit what works best for them and what they like. Hi pganapathy, I agree that people should get fitted whenever possible but I can't hit anything in a simulator so club fitting isn't possible for me at this time but I can appreciate the importance of getting properly fitted and I plan on doing so for my next set. For now, I'll just have to take lessons and do the best I can with the purchases I've made until I decide to get new clubs. I know that they aren't optimized for me but I'm still hitting them decently enough to play with them once I get my swing/alignment issues fixed. Hey Shindig, I've looked at what pro players are using and like you and Shorty said, a lot of them use things like cavity backs and "game improvement" irons, especially when it comes to the longer irons. I just want to make it clear that I don't want to sound like a snob when it comes to club selection. I'm literally the one person I know that plays blades and of all the people I know, I'm the worst player so I have nothing to be snobbish about. I just wanted to say that because I know some people are always bragging about their distances or what clubs they use, etc.
  5. Hi Vinsk, I'm glad to hear from you. I may have understated how bad I am when I step into a simulator, ha ha. Most of the time I can't even get the ball to hit the screen. At the range I actually make consistent contact, I just have trouble getting the ball to go exactly where I want it to, but in a simulator, it's like I never held a club before. I'm going to do what I should have done from the beginning and invest in some lessons. That should have been my first step but I thought I could get by reading books and watching youtube videos. After that I'll start posing some videos for some community input and re-examine my club situation. I'm also really glad that you told me about dividing my ball speed by 1.5. No one told me that, though it might have been because I would need to make good contact with the ball before.
  6. Hello Shindig, I heard that most players should be using more forgiving irons and even softer shafts. I can see how playing more forgiving irons would lower players scores and how that would appeal to most people. For me personally, I want to lower my score, but I also really enjoy trying to play the less forgiving clubs. They are harder to play with but when to me, I get great satisfaction when I do make those nice shots, I just need to make more of them. By "harder to hit" drivers and woods I simply mean less forgiving with off center strikes. I thought drivers and woods were like irons in that some models were designed to be more forgiving than others. By harder to hit I do not mean shaft flex. I brought up the question of shaft flex because I seem to able to hit stiff shafts based on the distances I'm getting but my local club fitters don't have a machine that measures swing speed and instead use ball speed and distance. The problem is that I'm too inconsistent in the simulators so I have no idea of which shaft and flex I should be using. I just wanted to know if my swing would adapt over time if I did get stiffer shafts, especially since I've only been playing golf for 4 years and my distances keep increasing. At the range I'm actually not too bad, I almost always make decent contact, but I started to pull or hook with my irons and slice with my driver, but I always sliced with my driver anyway. My 3 and 5 wood are actually okay. I've been spending 99% of my time at the range though so I'm not very good on the actual course but I've been out twice this year and want to get out more as time progresses. I'm curious as to which book you are referring to, I'd be interested in reading it.
  7. Thanks Vinsk, I read your reply immediately after I posted my question and I greatly appreciate your input on this subject. I ended up getting the harder to hit driver and woods with a stiff shaft because of a sudden price change but in my case it worked out well as I can hit the new clubs as well as my previous set. My big issue is consistency and for that, the only remedy is lessons and, as you suggested, feedback from my swing videos. I'll try and post some as soon as possible and I look forward to receiving some feedback. I certainly don't want my purchase to seem like I didn't take your advice to heart, I took a gamble and it my case, it wasn't a terrible idea, but I can see how it was a risk that could have been very expensive and lessened my enjoyment of the sport. I hope that you will continue to provide me with valuable advice and information as I have a long way to go to get to the level I want to be playing at. Sincerely, Jason
  8. Hello everyone, I'm relatively new to golf (started about 4 years ago) but I take it really seriously and want to get as close to pro level as possible. I don't really have anyone to guide me on this so I thought I would ask for advice here. I started out with beginner clubs with regular shafts but soon upgraded my irons Wilson Staff Model blades with Dynamic Gold S300 shafts, my logic being that if I play an unforgiving iron, it will force me to really work hard at ball striking, and the heavier and stiffer shaft will force me to increase my swing speed and power. Based on my ball distances at the range using old and cracked balls, I should be swinging at about 100mph. Now I want to upgrade my driver and woods to new ones that are less forgiving and have stiff shafts with the idea that I will improve into them. I was wondering what people thought of this plan. If swinging heavy and stiffer clubs is a good method of forcing you to swing faster, even it you might not currently be able to hit them optimally right away. Thanks Jason
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