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". their hands and arms were actually still completing the backswing while their bodies (hips and legs) had already begun the downswing." from http://www.andrewricegolf.com/?tag=84-degree-secret Very interesting statement in an era of teaching that tries to break a swing into backswing, downswing, and follow-through. When components are delineated in such a manner I think people have a tendency to ensure each phase has completed before the next phase has begun. That type of delineated thinking will result in jerky swings. In short, I think it is a fantastic observation.

I started playing golf about a year ago, and have been plagued with inconsistency (playing baseball all my life really got me a pretty bad swing). Over the past 2 weeks I found this thread, purchased the book, and have been working on the S&T; swing to varying margins of success. Today I finally got my body to fluidly hit all the positions, and I can honestly say I've never hit the ball this far this easily ever. I really don't have to try anymore, it really is as simple as just hitting the positions. Especially helpful was the 1/2 swing drill in the drills chapter of the book, and the straight leg drill. Hopefully I can keep it up, but as simple as this is I think I can. Thanks guys for making this thread!

From someone who is not very good and frequently gets tips: Often when I'm on the course I've finished working on something on the range. When people start throwing tip after tip at me all it does is get me off-track from what I originally had in my mind and generally gets me in a worse spot. Also, many 'helpful' people have no idea what things they do that causes their swing to work. I've been working on the stack and tilt swing of late, and you would not believe the number of people who try to smugly offer me helpful tips. I had a guy this weekend hassle me for most a round telling me that my grip was causing my slice... Which isn't even possible, but he sure thought so. I knew that I was letting my hands get out a bit and I was trying to get them back in, but he really had no idea what the root cause was of my problem. I can't even count the number of times I've gotten tips in the past year (the time I've been golfing) from people who's swing doesn't even utilize the tip they throw out at me. My rule is: if I see something obviously causing a swing defect I ask the person if they would like my observation. If they say no, I never mention it again. If I were with someone who was ridiculing my putting the entire round while draining putts, they would be lucky that my frustration didn't end up in their direction. Everyone plays for different reasons, and everyone has different mindsets. Original poster: have you considered that your 'tips' may have actually been adding to the problem?

I stretch all the time, and lately specifically for this game. I never want to be limited by my flexibility.