Polyester
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I watched the video again and I'm amazed how biased the presentation of the stances is Who stands in a posture like this where the knees are tucked inwards? Notice how it can be also done with your feet open. Ok so let's get real with this stuff On the upper image I'm standing like human beings do and on the lower image both feet are slightly open There is a slight gain in the turning but my left hip joint started to ache at the top position. Many pros have their left foot open like on the image below Again no significant difference on the rotation and this didn't feel bad at all. I assume that the reason for opening the left foot is that the joints of the left leg (ankle, knee, hip) are stressed less during the follow through. Bonus time You can actually turn your left foot in and rotate quite normally. However the stance does become quite narrow and I could imagine issues with stability and upper body rotation on the follow throughwith this kind of a stance. I'm not comfortable opening my both feet due to aching in the left hip. I think I'll start opening my left foot by 10-15 deg as I can see benefits to it and it does not hurt.
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Could you elaborate on the feet at set-up and the pivot. I was looking at the image where you had drawn the shoulder lines and I tried to get a matching position from my latest set of videos. As you can see I also added a shot of Rory McIlroy to get another reference point for my posture at the said position (youtube screencap from some chaps analysis video hence the extra red lines) Rory has his more weight loaded on the right leg, his left arm - right shoulder angle is ~45 deg and his club is at ~85 deg angle in relation to his left arm I have quite evenly loaded weight on legs (slightly more on r.leg?) , l.arm - r.shoulder 40 Blue chap has more weight loaded on left leg, l.arm - r.shoulder 50 Based on these images I don't think that my shoulder rotation is much off the mark. Then again there's probably a ton of stuff in these images that I missed or just don't understand I probably should more of a stupid monkey instead of being a questioning smart-ass
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Ok, thanks. I'm not a native english speaker and I just started this summer so I have quite a few gaps in my golf lingo.
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I think I'll get some shots from behind me the next time I go to dedicated range session to see how much my right arm separates from the body. The thing is that if I try to squeeze my right arm in, my right shoulder feels like it'll tear apart. My right A-C ligament has been partially torn for countless times and I've went through a surgery because of it. So I'm not too fancy about the towel in the arm pit idea. Played 109 today and got 35 points. I think that my biggest issue on the course is that I fail way too many shots because I take my eyes off the ball in order to admire the flight path Also my short game from 40 yd to 10 yd is like lottery.
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That 10% past 25 ft seems reasonable. What is lag putting?
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So at what distances you should practice and what kind of an accuracy can be considered satisfactory? Reflecting on the http://thesandtrap.com/t/51757/pga-tour-putts-gained-make-percentage-stats These values might be reasonable: 8/10 from 3 feet (1 m) 4/10 from 7 feet and rest of the balls within a foot (2 m / 30 cm) 1/10 from 15 feet and rest within 2 feet (5 m / 60 cm) Up to 35 feet within 2 feet (10m / 60 cm) Up to 50 feet within 3 feet (15m / 1m) Further distances: try not to get in these situations Imperial to metric values are quite coarsely rounded
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I think that the best part in this kind of putting is that you can measure how long backswing you need to make to clear certain flat distances. For example if I make a 10 cm backswing and "let it go" the ball will travel about 1m on a flat surface. This way I can get few repeatable distances and estimating putts on an actual green becomes a bit easier
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Last Friday I had the worst range session in a while and it was the first time that I became really frustrated on a range. Went playing the next day and I managed to drop my HCP from 34 to 31,5 So I was trying to get rid of excessive leg/hip movement because I was striking at a quite strange angle. Also I just lately managed to start keeping my left arm straight through the whole swing so it probably counted to the large amount of hooked and pulled shots. When I actually manage to keep my legs in check and follow through the swing the shots feel great and fly straight as an arrow. Enough blabbing. Here's two separate shots with pw from face on and dtl angles PW - Face On PW - DTL
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One alone badly played 9 out (playing alone when there's multiple 4 man groups in front of you is the epitome of boring) and two range sessions later I'm bit wiser again. Now that I'm getting rid of the initial wrist bend I need to focus on the overextension of my backswing. On both range sessions I tried to focus on keeping my left arm as straight as possible (and it felt straight) but I'm still curling over at the top. During next sessions I'm going to focus on getting my grip end to point towards ground at top position. just made some very slow swings with sandy and the proper top position felt like a half swing. After I get the hang of the proper backswing I think I need to start paying some attention to striking downwards on the downswing as I'm topping or hitting thin half of my shots at the moment. No vids this time as there's no notable difference to the previous videos I posted.
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Thanks for the replies. I usually do half an hour of slow motion practice swings with a broomstick (I live in a flat and the roof isn't high enough to swing comfortably an actual club) each night after I've finished cutting my videos. The problem is that when you take a club in your hand the swing changes quite a bit and when you place a ball in front of you, the old habits kick in even harder. When I start to make changes to my swing some parts of the swing usually relapse to natural feeling bad habits. For instance before I signed in and posted in this thread I was working on planting the back leg firmly on the downswing to encourage hip slide and to prevent kicking my knee towards the ball. Now I have so many things to focus on during the upswing that I slightly lift my back heel and kick towards the ball. I really think that the wrist bend is probably the hardest habit/ritual to get rid off for me. I had to concentrate really hard today in order to not bend the wrist and this change will haunt me for quite a while. OT: I was quite prepared to break my swing apart in order to get it right, but man it's devastating when your shots suddenly become very unstable. I'm glad I only started this summer so that the baby steps don't feel that bad. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be if you are close to singles and ýou start to reform your swing. About todays session: 2 buckets Focused really hard to not bend the wrists on the takeoff, my upswings were really slow A lot of variation on the shots, quite equal distribution on solids, hooks, slices & tops. Previously hooks were quite rare for me and I used to top 2-3 balls per bucket. Face on shots are a bit bad due to sun being directly behind my back... 6i DTL top 6i DTL solid 6i FO top 6i FO solid
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I don't know why and when I've picked the bending of the wrists but it is really ingrained into my swing. I tried quite a few shots with taking off slowly with my wrists but it messed my tempo so badly that I was swinging air a lot. It'll probably take over 20 buckets to neutralize the bend at the start. Even so I think I did manage to ease it little bit.
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They were set to public but I forgot to publish them...
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Been three times to the range since the last post (I only play on weekends because my work days are quite long) First session was quite disastrous, I heavily over did my hip rotation on the backswing and it looked really messed up. On the last 10 or so I didn't try to rotate but I rather loosened my back leg and managed to get some solid shots. ~80 balls shot Second session was truly tormenting... During the first bucket there were two guys who talked rather loud after each shot and I had real hard time concentrating on my shots. Then I had the range for me alone for about 10 shots and this couple in their 40s came. It took 2 minutes and they started fighting about hitting the ball or something the guy was swearing like a sailor and the woman just yapped something back constantly. Best part was that it kept going for half an hour with only a few short breaks. To add the insult I forgot to use bug repellent and these nasty pestilences kept disrupting my concentration even more. God how pissed I was when I left the range. OT Note to self: Always take earphones and bug repellent to the range! Third session which was today was quite good, actually excellent if compared to the second session . I focused on limiting my shoulder rotation at the top position and tried to bend my wrists less. My backswings felt like I was making 3/4 swings because I was so accustomed to heavily overextending my backswing . I was topping quite a lot and I think it was due to my bad posture at the start (back is S-curved) and overall I was having some troubles at positioning myself properly at the start. Most of the shots I managed actually hit properly flew straight, there was an occasional hook and some sliced shots but I think I'm on the right track. 7i DTL 7i FO
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Thanks a lot for the pointers! 1. Getting rid of that overbending will probably be a challenge, but I'll try it out next time I get to the range (quite a lighting fest out there at the moment) When I mentioned that my grip was bad in the starting post I meant this: 2. I think that I can get my upper body rotating properly if I extend my back leg and rotate my hips properly in the upswing (this is actually quite natural to me, I don't know where I picked up the idea that my hips shouldn't move at all in the upswing) 3. I agree that my swing is too long and narrow. While the windup plays a critical part in the top posture, I think that a lot of it is caused by my bending left arm and my overly stable back leg. The bent and stable back leg prevents my hips from moving -> spine needs to give in if the shoulders are forced to proper position (the shoulder line in the 3rd pic is quite close to the example) and IMO my spine looks bit crooked/twisted in the 3rd pic Are my ideas & thoughts any good or should I just stick to the pointers you gave me. I usually try to challenge all the pieces of advice I get because it often teaches me a lot more than just passive accepting. Just to clarify, I didn't mean to be ungrateful or a smart ass by any means. I hope that damn thunderstorm stops soon so that I can go out to the range.
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Yea, you got that right . Although I think your father is Finnish rather than finish