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  1. I loved them, they were not as smooth feeling as the G30s were, but the results were longer and more forgiving. they are not terrible feeling by any means. just felt like it took more work to get them into the slot. some may not even feel that however. also they have their own "standard length" as they are about 1/2 inch longer even in the steel. not sure why however. but definitely a good purchase if they swing well for you. great for high handicapper but less offset then G30s as well. and are somewhat shapeable. the 2s seem more so if that's what you are looking for. a solid buy. I would have bought a set if I had the money to spare on them, they are a bit steep for some. then again dollar for dollar if I could squeeze a bit more out I would be going with the XRs or Apex from Callaway as they had the feel of the G30s and the distance at least of the RSi (FOR ME). try them if you get a chance tho.
  2. actually... sitting here thinking about what we went over.. still lots of gaps... shaft weight etc was never discussed. he told me "we use this brand in that one you swung with that wilson head" but never dialed in a swing weight or shaft weight. just the effects of them. tried looking up that brand/model but it varies in weights... so I have no clue what weight of shafts or over all swing weight was actually used on any of it. only info on shaft I have is +1/4 inch, firm (R/S) flex or stiff soft stepped, steel "LITE" Low kick point. but the mid/low of one I used I was hitting the target repeatedly. did I actually get shafted on the fitting? there are no others in this area I could think of that I would be able to go.
  3. I am EXTREMELY upset with the last "club fitter" granted I didn't do a full fitting, just what was needed for the driver (supposedly) and left the store thinking I had a really good deal on a club. come to find out the shaft was faulty. just all around bad shaft. the fitter I talked to today asked me before going out the door how my driver worked for me, and I told him I was thinking about cutting it down slightly cause of the inconsistency, so he asked if he could take a look at it. he messed with the flex a bit and walked towards his show put it in a vice with the little weighted laser on it.pulled it back in line with direction of what a shot would be. it didn't stay online for more then a fraction of a second before oscillating around in huge circles. he turned it and did it again. same result. 8 directions and same results, no "flow" found. he showed me a couple of other shafts some reasonable some just to much lol. but the ammount of how bad my shaft was was upsetting. my price range through that fitter would leave me with Acer brand. but was wondering if anyone else out there knows the new line of Acer, all I know is they are an "open design". he seemed like he was trying to push one of the options a bit but wasn't sure if it was really what would work for me or if he was trying to dwindle his excess stock. he did say any heads/sets I pick up he would get adjusted and fitted for me so kind of on the fence for what heads to get. I'm not particularly attracted to the heads he had available in the Acer brand. but if they are a much better option compared to the DTG clone models then maybe. only thing that worries me is he didn't do the lie board test, but with my clubs being so "whippy" even for stiff flex, might be part of the reason for a 2* flat adjustment on the current set? I was hitting the "standard" lie rather well but then again that's a couple feet into a target net. (altho being told they had a trackman on the phone I saw no evidence of one at their shop, not even a table/desk where one would sit) but I did get to swing the Ben Hogans, if I had the money I woulda been walking out with those lol. sooo smooth and rarely had a bad hit, they almost swung themselves.
  4. point of relief! I was getting distraught but a few things, wanting better then just rack offerings retooled or off the rack higher end stuff. I want and feel much better with proper fitted clubs and the custom fitting prices I ran into around this area were just crazy. 100 dollars and up. there goes the plan I had set up, but found a club maker that's been doing it for over 20 years and has launch monitors and all the gadgets to go with. smaller company (locally owned) is certified. if I don't like what they have to offer for heads/shafts etc then its only 30 bucks! and where the other fitters were only allowing certain clubs/models to be tested (unless used), what he has on the shelves is also in the fitting area! I know the Ben Hogan's are way better of a club then I am a golfer but I can't wait to give them a few (dozen) swings! I'll try to get in there in next few days and I'll let you know how it turns out if I can. but any opinions of the above things still welcome, I might be able have them help me with testing out something as an option. thanks guys :)
  5. thats what I was afraid of and trying to find out on part of it. thank you.
  6. I was thinking the same thing about the swing weight about effective mass. I can understand that weight in the lower shaft even up through a portion of the shaft itself can be a pulling for changing center of gravity, but when the grips change the swing weight DOWN it didnt make much sense as mass is pushed to the exterior of the arc (centric force) the grip or butt end weights may change the feel but I didnt see where actual contact mass would increase or decrease. if my hands were a true fulcrum point and the butt was heavily weighted I can see it increasing mass on the other end. if anything how it is and the whole unit is extended out seems that all mass would add to impact rather then take away. but I was going by gathered common knowledge. club selection I decided on are the RSi style heads. from 5-LW so have GI heads in mind. and 3,4 Hybrid 3 Wood. the comfortable 7 iron length I have and tested in like 6-7 brands/models all push the 24/38 rule at 37 1/4. not dead set on plateauing them but wondered if anyone had success in similar. even the RSi as forgiving were felt like I was wrestling to much with the club head at the end of a wobbly stick which gave me some erratic results from over correcting for feel, closing to quickly or leaving it open to correct for previous closed hit. they never "slid into groove". I appreciate all the input :) and yes I am soaking it in and weighing it all.
  7. I looked at that list before, nearest city ain't on that list. closest I think is about 250 away from here. I got a lot of information from the fitter. seemingly one of the better fitters after I went to another place. but for fine details he couldn't give up or he would have to charge for a fitting. he did let me "test" a lot of variations between other customers. one of the other places their fitter kinda leaned over a partition while checking lie on my 56* acted like I was taking his precious time from talking with his buddies (they weren't doing anything else) adjusted the lie like a ape, said "close enough" and handed it back to me, I half wonder if the loft didn't go to 57 from the angle he was jerking the tool was very forward.. he was drinking coffee and crackin jokes before I even got to their check out clerk. trying to dial it in a little before ordering. and don't want to spend a 20-25% of my club budget to do it if possible.
  8. Ive been doing lots of practicing and jotting down numbers and really measuring out what club does what for me. and looking into rounding out my first custom order. but got to the shafts and started questioning some things. will do this in sections and is someone can help with a particular section it would be appreciated. Section A: Testing Notes: when on toe or heal 3/4 inch from center shots all seemed to be in near identical placement no substantial "variable" or mid way between the placements. (Shafts are graphite) my 9 Iron is 36 and 3/8th inch, out of 50 shots 1 low toe (3/4 inch off center) 3 toe (3/4 inch) 2 low shots 44 shots dead center (within 1/8th of an inch) my 7 iron 37 and 1/4 inch out of 50 shots 2 low toe (3/4 inch off center) 4 toe (3/4 inch) 2 low shots 42 center hits (within 1/4-1/3 inch) my 3 Iron (5 iron missing from set) 39 and 1/4 inch 5 low toe (3/4 inch) 11 toe (3/4 inch, again tight pattern for toe shots) 10 low shots (2 of which were complete whiffs) 3 heel shots (3/4 inch) 21 center shots (within 1/4-1/3 inch) Section B: Shaft selection Notes: when selecting a lower weight shaft will need to weight the shaft with powder or weights to get swing weight back. trying to decide on the (stiffs all the way across) UST iRod Transition, UST hYB Hybrid shafts, UST dRVR wood shaft (for the fairways). Or if the extra spent on Fujikura Fit On Max 75 Iron($10 more per shaft), Matrix Ozik Altus 5.1 Fairway Shaft (for fairways and hybrids, about $10-$13 more per shaft). Is the extra $110-$120 REALLY worth it? The latter two are on a big sale atm were I am looking. kick/launch is the same on them, torque are within .3 in each case is there more consistency of shafts or something? Section C: Length/weight selection The length on my mid/lower irons feel good, the longer irons as shown above get away from me. but mostly towards the toe, was I was thinking lengthening over all about 1/4 inch but kinda leary as I am already a bit long for control. testing the Ping G30s at 1/2" long (steel shafts) the 7 iron was just plain awesome to swing. really consistent and felt good. the RSi felt a bit heavier and as standard. I got better distance and shot pattern out of the RSi (assuming much of this is their face slot technology) but I would rather swing the Pings. Physical differences were primarily the swing weights. the ping stock is D0 and the RSi is D2.5 (in steel) -1 on each for graphite versions. how much of a mass/velocity difference is there since the head weights are the same (7i for 7i) 272 grams? with all shafts I selected there would need to be weighting done to even hit the D0 mark. and don't know if it would be worth the feel difference to gain those 2-2.5 swing weights what would be the distance loss really be? or would there be enough to tell? I was also curious about plateauing the length at the length of my 7 Iron since its the last club I seem to hit relatively consistent. being 2* flat on clubs as is it wouldn't be to hard for the adjustment on the longer clubs (and tossing out the 3 and 4 irons in favor of the hybrids). my understanding is loss of distance/consistent gapping between the lengths due to velocity. but would adjusting their lofts make up for this? 1* on the 6 and 2* on the 5? I know I would be more consistent with the contact. then leaving the other irons standard+ my length increase I normally have. anyone know how much loft change I would need to use to make up for the loss of 1/2" each club? My swing slows down on the clubs beyond the 7i due to trying to make consistent contact and make them playable so my distances with these are already squashed up in the long irons. They just feel like more work and am not comfortable with them the longer they get and the 5,6 hybrids just ain't my thing. I know there are lots of information in a single post, that's why I separated a bit. if people can even help with even one section it would help. if you have supporting data I LOVE data/test results :) but not necessary. any questions about my testing or my theory please just ask I will explain best I can if this way does not translate correctly.
  9. If you are going from just fine on the range to falling apart on the course might of had/have the same issues I've had recently. I myself am looking for that cleansing thought pre address routine. but I wonder if you are over thinking/analyzing each shot so your brain is over active trying to make constant little adjustments. there are a few different approaches to take and sometimes the right one depends on the individual and/or whats making them flood with to much information. back in 2010 I think it was for the Open over seas one of the coaches that coaches two of the pros. they were asked "do you try to give them anything to keep in mind when out there?" his reply was "no, just like a race horse, you teach them everything you can before hand but when its time you just let them run". which makes perfect sense. once its taught like many other things specially physical it will be more natural and free of thought.
  10. on some clubs I saw "ATV" I read about the TM company bringing them out etc. but how do they relate to bounce?
  11. Im not looking at changing the cleveland. just adding a AW and LW to complement. I love the cleveland 588 rtx
  12. I have a cleveland 56* 10 bounce and trying to find some other wedges to complement this wedge or play similarly. the courses here for from dry to soggy sometimes in the same day. holes further from the rivers/farmers fields tend to be a bit drier while the ones closer seem to hold water much longer like a sponge so its varied as for conditions.. I play a picking type wedge shot. any time I try to play taking a divot I over dig. (any wedge/iron no matter the bounce) Im not sure if I should go 6,8,or 12 on the others. and can not find 10 in the set I am looking at.
  13. thanks for the info on the app, I will download it and see if it works out for me tomorrow (shoulder permitting)
  14. you are quite right. something I can break the swing down myself and share it as well.
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