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Big thumbs up @bkuehn1952. I think this is a key for the enjoyment of the game. Average leave after a tee shot on the PGA tour is 171 yards. Which would probably be an 8 or 7 iron. That includes par 5's. So, on Par 4's they are probably having 8 iron or less on average. If every shot into a par 4 is a hybrid or long iron, move up. If PGA Tour get to have mid and short irons as approach shots, we as amateurs don't need to make the game tougher for ourselves. 🤣 I have found that I like playing golf in the 6600 to 7200 range. There are some good golf courses sub 6600 as well. I think course rating is also a good indicator of how long a course will play. I might try to play some courses from the front tees to see how low I can shoot next year. I've enjoyed a few of those break whatever number from the front tees YT videos. It sounds like fun. I still try to play one club golf a few times a year. Golf is hard, but we should make golf fun 😉

I think it is great to see others move forward. My group has been playing tees around 5800 since my surgery, and it likes that distance. My takeaway from this: Be thankful you're healthy enough to swing a club. I think it's great that there is an option to play golf from shorter distances

I've always been a big fan of "play the tees you want to play." Golf is supposed to be about fun for most people. @Hardspoon regularly plays up a set of tees or two on most trips and courses; good! That's what should happen. John won't take that as a shot at him, and I've not intended it as one.

Interesting thought. Today I shot 77, I passed 69 when I got to 17 green. A few weeks ago I shot 74 from the senior tees, made it through 17 complete before getting to my age.

This isn't something that I track. But I just took a look at the last round I played. I made it through 12 holes. At which time I had exactly my age.

Can’t wait to hit 79 years old!

I've finally reached an age equal to the lowest score I ever shot.