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New video. We have been working for a little while now and hes come a really long way. His golf season is approaching and I think his scoring average is about to drop by a ton from last year. Anyways, he kind of overdid a good thing and started getting the shoulders turning too steep on the BS (watch his head). So he was feeling like his left shoulder didn't work down at all on the BS and then keeping inclination constant after p4. Still have a little work to do, but certainly looking better.

To be honest, I'm trying so hard to over extend after p2 that I don't feel much else at p4. This is a tough one for me...

New video. I reverted a little bit thanks to the holidays and my tilt/extend feel wasn't exactly working for me. Looking better now though. Also, changed setup slightly. Oh and in the after I was swinging about 50% and chunked it, but oh well.... its progress.

Well said. As I always tell my students, fast is slow and slow is fast.

Feeling more extension (one of the pieces that has reverted slightly) and left arm feeling like its working to the bill of his cap. Then once the left arm was working better we had to work on feeling like his backswing took way too long. I got some clips that look prettier, but I don't care... part of the side issue is getting him to like HIS swing.

Time for a new one: This one will be interesting I think. This is Henry and he is a really good player. He has a pretty unique swing, but really has the ability to put the club where it needs to be when it counts. However, there were things that were holding him back. The after was taken the other day on the range. We had a couple pieces looking a little better than this before the lack of daylight kind of ruined our usual lesson time. However, I still think hes made big strides in a short period of time considering how long he was playing with that swing. As for the changes, I'm going to tell you the results and let you pick out the changes that got those results. The two biggest results have been low point control and distance. However, there is another really good one. Look at his aim line in the before DTL and the ball flight.

And from a different angle. Got a couple things I really want to clean up once this gets more ingrained. However, its going good.... just hard considering how long I practiced my low and slow move way back when.

Thanks guys. I'll post a new one in a day or two. At first we weren't working that often and things moved kind of slow. We talked about low point control and did some chipping drills (for impact) first, so swing wasn't dramatically different, but he started making consistent contact because he knew the goal on the most basic level. Then we started working more frequently and the changes started getting dramatic. I'd say in a month and half to two months he basically became a new golfer (technically there is probably 3-4 months between those videos). And that isn't including learning components for working the ball and for shortgame trajectories. Like I said, he put in major work this summer. I am extremely impressed with him.

Worked for about 20 minutes yesterday and got about 15 swings in today after a lesson. Looks better... had to save this shot with my hands a little though so RoC looks worse. Also, 2 and 3 aren't where I'd like them to be and hips aren't great either. Anyways, I like the changes. Just gotta keep working and then do some polishing.

When we started changing sequencing and started getting some hip slide, thats when things started clicking. But we still had an issue with the arms getting left behind and with him throwing a bit. A really good drill that got it looking nice and shiny was gloves in the armpits and feeling the left shoulder stay down while #1 and #4 release. Kid worked hard for those changes though. Thanks. Will do.

Look, I decided to start posting more over here because I thought I could get more positive discussion going. I didn't expect for people to publicly accuse me of whatever you guys are accusing me of. You didn't send me a pm, you didn't ask. Just something I thought I should point out in case you hadn't considered it. Like most people he early extended for a reason. For one, he was physically getting closer to the ground. And the other being that he was making the club longer by dumping everything early. He ran out of room and had to get out of the way. So the fix was a little more involved than just achieving the more stable axis (still needs work), but that was a piece of the puzzle.

Thanks James. I've done #1 like a thousand times and got to where I actually started over extending to p3 and then from there it went right back to dropping. I mean its getting better, but for some reason I always start dropping hard after 3. As for #2, like I said I was getting slightly better, but still wasn't great. I noticed the other day that inline at setup looked left and cf looked inline. When I focused on swinging towards what is actually inline, it got better.. not awesome but better. Worked on the right elbow in transition as well. Anyways, definitely needs some work. Hard to get away with it on my longer clubs. You guys think it would be better to just go ahead and flatten my clubs? Because as soon as I started getting shallower, everything moved towards the heel.

Thanks Dave. I appreciate the information you guys put out there for us. It has really helped me get better at what I do.

Thats actually what I had been working on. I was getting a lot less steep as a result. Was getting to the point where I needed to adjust my lie angles, but kind of lost that progress after this 10ish days without hitting a ball. One of my weak points for sure.

Besides the fact that I own the videos, the only point of posting them was to display their hard work and maybe get some conversation going about the changes. I'm very proud of the work my students put in and I think its nice for others to see the results of that work. Also, I think the videos can help others get better. So win-win in my opinion. And on top of all of that, each person gets a link to their video and can ask me to have it moved to private if they so wish. None have requested to this point. I appreciate the concern, but honestly, its unwarranted and more than a little distracting.

Here's a recent swing... not bad for the fourth swing after taking over a week off. A couple old habits creeping in though.

Time for another installment. Here's Tyler as promised. I met Tyler this summer when he was struggling with.... what he was working on. We have made some great progress since that time. I'm really, really proud of this kid. I can't wait to see where he ends up. As for the changes... they are not hard to pick up on, so I'll let you guys figure it out for the most part. However, I will say that we are working on getting more extension post impact so there isn't as much fall and compression. And he was standing a little too close in the after DTL shot. Part of his homework was to work that change into his routine.... although, I think some of it is that his clubs need to be adjusted. Anyways, this is just the beginning. More to come from this kid for sure.

Yea he paid me. That lesson took well over an hour though. And for the two posts above the one I quoted, what I suggest is this: If you are working on a mechanical piece then its fine to keep aim constant (ie: alignment sticks, rope on ground, etc). If you are hitting balls to groove your swing or want to work on hitting shots, then go through your routine and try to land on a target. Basically treat it like you are on the course. I feel like that's the most efficient way to use your time and also feel like it will keep you from falling into bad habits.

Thanks for posting this for me. I just don't think enough emphasis is placed on the right pieces at times. Getting your clubface aimed perfectly at target wont make you hit it straight. Hit the ball solid, control your curve, aim your shot.

Thanks James. Will do if I get the chance.

Thanks Michael. I appreciate you guys letting me share here. You and Erik have always been very generous. Like I said before, really the only reason I haven't posted more here was that I have a hard time following stuff on the phone. Erik needs to get on a mobile version Permission? I think you misunderstood. These are videos of my students and their progress (so my videos). I'm just slowly copying a thread that I started elsewhere to here. Which brings up a good point, I'm going to be slowly adding in new students to this thread to give people the time to comment, ask questions, or whatever. For instance, I think the next one I add will be Scott's son Tyler. Its a pretty crazy change...

Some of you may know me and some of you may not. My name is Brian and I'm a golf instructor in GA. I frequent another forum and will occasionally pop in over here. However, I'm thinking of changing that a bit because the other place just doesn't seem interested any more. And because of that, I'm going to start "porting" over some stuff from that other forum in hopes that it will start the conversations that it failed to start before. So here it goes. The reason I'm starting this thread is just for conversation purposes. You can ask me questions, criticize, admire, or whatever you want. I'm proud of all my students and the work that they put in and I just felt like sharing. If you have any ideas on how I could improve the thread then please feel free to share. So first up is Scott L. This was our first lesson and I'd say he did ok. The before: He doesn't get much hip or shoulder turn. The arms are then forced to lift off the body and overrun body rotation. That was forcing his hand path off arc and messed up his downswing sequencing. His arms had to start down first to get caught back up to the body and the rest was history. The after: I caught him doing a drill he wanted to do. His real swing looks slightly different than this (little more run on, DS sequencing slightly different), but this is a good idea of where he was at the end of the lesson and where he is moving with his swing. Anyways, his right leg loses more flexion which helps the hips turn on a better pitch and also helps free up the shoulder turn. The shoulders are turning steeper and deeper (probably like 30ish degrees more). Hand path is getting much deeper now as well. Arms stay in sync with the shoulders, which makes his downswing sequencing easier. In the DS he is just concentrating on getting weight left and turning.. letting the arms follow more than lead. Unfortunately Scott has been busy recently with life stuff, so we haven't gotten around to completing the project. However, maybe things will open up again and we can get some more work done. Enjoy.

Thanks Michael! We worked two days in a row in that sequence (for like 3ish hours total). First day (Friday) we started out with ball flight laws, shot descriptions, etc and then got into some setup and swing stuff. The second day (Saturday) we concentrated on tilts and then eventually got into working the ball (applying ball flight laws). Saw him and his group today (Sunday) at the turn and they said he was hitting it further than he was before, which I'm sure was quite a sight considering how long they thought he was before, and said he shot 36. He went from talking about quitting the game to nothing but smiles. Amazing what good information does for people. EDIT* Setup is still off in the after. He has a tendency to stand too close. Think we got it worked out though.

Haha... like the reaction at the end. But yea, hips should turn and right leg should lose some flex while doing it. However, the biggest problem IMO is that she doesn't understand how the club should travel inside. When she watches you or whoever she has seen swing the club she thinks the arms are the ones doing the work. The reality is that the shoulders should move the arms inside. To prove that point you can have her stand up and hold her arms out in front of her and then turn her shoulders 90*. Everything will have moved inside without the arms working independently of her shoulder turn. From there just get weight forward and swing away.

If you shift that much weight to the back foot you aren't staying centered.