jackace

The other thing you need to consider about their clubs and why the PW is going so long is the loft of the PW and length of the shaft. I hit a friends PW once (he is 6'6") it was only a 45* wedge and was 1.25" longer than standard. I too hit that wedge 160-165 pretty easy if I swung hard. I hit my 48* PW thats standard length 125-130 yards for comparison.

If you resell a lot and upgrade often , the MP-60s might retain more value, but I'm not 100% sure.

I believe all taylormade TP drivers are open faced. I'm pretty sure the 907d2 is atleast square if not a degree or two open. I think the cobra speed pro drivers are open a degree or two as well.

Why are these clubs so much more money then the regular clubs? From the specs they have no offset usually and have a little different design to keep ball flight low. I don't see why they charge 2-3x as much for these clubs. Am I missing something?

I got to hit the burner again today and its a very good club. I hit the x460 as well, but liked the burner much more.

http://www.taylormadegolf.com/product_detail.asp?pID=86 Those are the taylormade blades i assume. Even in your reply you said MB. MB stands for muscle back and CB stands for cavity back. As far as clubs. The 735.cm titleist clubs might be another set to try. I hear good things about the cleveland and cobra irons as well.

I have just seen a lot of people who play mizuno mp-60 or 67s that have bent the loft of all the clubs 1 or 2 degrees and wondered why.

What is the purpose for bending the loft of clubs. I know it adjusts the launch angle, but is that the only reason?

maybe so but finding a good clone is hard. The Quality Control is not there so the clubs play different from club to club sometimes. I have heard some horror stories, but then i have heard some good outcomes.

I tested them at golf galaxy and its a very solid club indeed. If you don't need or want the weights of the r7 line the burner is a very good club.

Clones usually aren't horrible, but to the avid golfer the clones do not offer the same experience or quality that a good set of custom fit clubs will offer. Its kind of like you going to Wal-Mart and picking up the flying fishing special on the shelf. It will get the job done but you can REALLY tell a difference and the difference usually has an impact on how well you enjoy your recreational time with the activity.

I hit it today and its very forgiving and straight.

Thank you very much for the information. Thats exactly what i was looking for.

What is the best places to try out different shafts on different clubs? I went to golf galaxy but if its not a semi std shaft they don't have it for testing. I see a lot of people using project x (flighted as well) on irons and i have seen a bunch of different driver shafts being used, but honestly i have never tried anything but the std shaft in different flexes. Luckily for me i hit the DG s300 shaft pretty solid and my clubs dont need any length or lie adjustments, so irons havent been a big problem for me. I have however wondered about different shafts on a driver. I have tested a few clubs recently and even though i get the stiff flex almost every time, some of the clubs i can't hit straight to save my life and others with same loft and length i can crush it straight every time. I was reading another post in another forum and the guy was talking about stock shafts on clubs (TM clubs in particular) and how they vary greatly from shaft to shaft, so i was wondering if i have passed up on very good clubs just because the particular club i was using had a "faulty" shaft. One of the other people in that post said he tested a dozen of the TM mas2 shafts (stiff flex) and there was almost no uniformity between the 12 shafts. He said some of them tested out as soft regular flex, one even tested out as a high x-stiff flex, and everything in between.

here is an article from golfsmith. http://www.golfsmith.com/ps/display_...rsguide_wedges More bounce means less drag. This is good in tall grass and sand where your club goes through the grass or sand. This allows your club to "cut" through the grass or sand and hit the ball. Less bounce lowers the height of the leading edge and is best used on lies with hard flat ground, down-sloped lies, or any lie you think you might "blade" the ball. Thats my understanding of the benefits and uses of bounce. I'm no pro though.

i demoed the clubs at GG a few days ago and they are definitely nice clubs and are probably one of the most forgiving "players irons" on the market. I compared them to the 735s 755s mp60 and mp67. Of the 5 the 735s, mp60 and r7 tp were probably my favorite, but my swing is pretty rusty with only golfing twice last year. The mp-67s are very good but the least forgiving of the bunch.

I had titleist irons myself (until they were stolen out of my trunk). I have been in school and work the last 2 years so haven't had much time to play. I graduate this semester so I'm currently looking at clubs myself. I have tried the titleist, mizuno, and taylormade. The r7 tp irons were the most forgiving of all the irons, and they had the most "unique" feel as well. The mp-67's were the least forgiving but i was surprised at how forgiving they actually were for a blade. The titleist 735, 755 and mp-60 all felt about the same as far as forgivness, but i could always tell the mizuno club apart from the titleists. I'm not sure which one felt "best" they all had a slightly different feel, but none of them felt bad to me just different. I do like the mp-67's when you hit it clean. You don't even feel the ball. I was also surprised at how close the 735 and 755 felt when i was testing them. Overall i liked the 735s better though. Soon as i can find a job I'm going to make a purchase and as it stands right now the r7 tp, mp-60 and 735s are my top choices, but I'm not ruling out the mp67s just yet, they hit too sweet. I'm a little rusty and out of shape now, but when i was playing regularly my handicap was about 10. (never got an official handicap) Quick questions to the guys with the mizuno clubs with the lofts changed. What are the benefits to doing such a thing? (besides increased/decreased distance of course) Did you buy the clubs already changed or did you have them changed after you bought them and played them? If you bought them changed where does a person test out those changes before you buy?