Well he's not our billy. Let me expalin. We went out there as a threesome one day and the starter goes..hey do you mind if this guy plays with you. We were trying to keep it a private game and we said we didn't want him in our group..( we didn't know he was retarded at the time, we just didn't wanna fourth) he asked us again and we said no again. The starter ends up stickin him with us anyways...we are not going to complain, So billy is now golfing with us..(he only plays for 9 ,the starter said) we start trying to make basic convo with this guy and he was Aurtistic(sp?) or somthing. he could interact with no social skillz. and when he tried to talk he studderd like crazy and dind't make any sence..we bought him a drink and stuff to try and calm him down..It kinda threw all our games off. we would park the cart next to his ball and he would sprint about 40yds off into the distance, WTF..he wasnt a bad player..he had a john Daly swing, but always over hit it when he got close. anyways, yeah, thats billy and our only experience with him.