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I went from a set of Callaways Fusion irons to the JPX-800 pro's a few months ago. I have a natural draw and on bad days I can have a really strong draw to even a hook. I havent noticed any increase in my hooks or draws with the Mizunos over the Callaways. I actually have tighter groups with my Mizunos, but in all honesty I attribute that to work with my swing coach and lots of practice. I think that the mizunos have forced me to become more consistant with my swing do to their slightly smaller head size and less offset. The Fusions would disguise some of my mishits with their extra forgiveness and it would be difficult to tell where on the face that I struck the ball, but I can get distinct feedback with the Mizunos. And the Mizunos feel ooohhhhh soooooo sweet when you hit them in the sweet spot. I don't think that the Mizuno's will increase or decrease your hook, BUT,..... if your a 16 handicap and are working with a coach and playing frequently,..... then I think you would really enjoy the JPX-800 pro's. It will be easier to work the ball with the Mizunos when your game gets to that point than with your current sticks. Bottom line is try and demo the Mizunos and form your own opinion.

zgoldsmith23, The suggestions above are all good but I think they left out something that "I" feel is even more important than the brand of clubs you decide on or even weather or not they are game improvement or super game improvement or even a game enhancement type of club, and that is,....... GET PROPERLY FIT. Every person has a different swing,... for some it's a big difference and for others only slightly. Your swing, combined with your body size and type will determine what the specs of your clubs should be. A good club fitter can set you up with a set that fits you and your swing, and your budget as well.

Artimas, I think that set will serve your son just fine. I'm sure it will be much better quality than some of the complete sets you will find. Adams makes quality products even their lower line products are good products.

Rocky74, I would say that a lesson would help more than switching sticks. Golf is a game of inches,....... and thats after you make good contact with the ball,.... its a game of millimeters before contact.

brianm423, Congrats,.... I enjoy mine more and more each time I go out,.... well there are days I don't like any club in my bag,....lol I also play a midsize grip and had Mizuno put on a set of their blue/black Mizuno new decade midsize grips on. I went with the Dynalite XP shafts and love that high ball flight,.... especially on my long irons. I was surprised at just how quickly I got comfortable with my new 800pro's on the course. It's kinda surprising at just how popular the JPX-800 pro's are. When I went looking for irons I started off looking at Callaways and wound up at the Mizuno tent just for the sake of it, and low and behold that what I wound up with. I can just imagine at how popular they would be if Mizuno had the big advertising dollars that Callaway and Taylormade does.

Lizzyboy, Did you get a chance to demo the MX-1000 before you purchased them? If so, did you hit them well then? Some people have trouble mentally playing a big headed iron like the MX-1000. I hit them at a demo days and I was surprised at just how well I hit them, BUT,.... they were just butt ugly to me. If you were looking for a set of Mizunos,... I bet you would have liked the JPX-800 irons since they would have been more like the big berthas that you had played, but with newer technology with a hotter face and more forgiveness. I think the MX-1000 had two negative things working against them: #1 they were ugly and #2 they were pretty expensive, but they are a pretty forgiving iron. If you have your old big berthas,... I would suggest that you see how you still hit them. I would probably say your problem is more likely a swing flaw as opposed to being the MX-1000. Good luck,.........

Will the shop let ya take out a demo 6 iron in both the Mizuno and the Adams irons? I think that taking them to the range will give you a real world test and finalize your choice. I personally, don't like hitting off mats and get much better realworld feedback off grass. rustyredcab, I also switched from a set of Fusions that I had purchased new in 2005. It was kinda funny reading your comparision between your Fusions and the 800 pros, because distance control was also very difficult for me with the Fusions. I couldnt do punch shots or bump and runs with the Fusions and have any sort of distance control. I am much more consistant now with the 800 pro's, and yes,.... you are right about the addiction of the sound and feel of good shots with the 800 pros.

Ive hit both and yes your initional assessment of the differences if correct. The Titleist are good irons but the forged Mizunos are just like butter. The Mizunos have minimal offset and a thinner top line than most game improvement irons as well. You should try them both back to back and compare the difference.

Tmurry14, Since you're a 10 handicap you should take a look at the Mizuno JPX-800 pro irons. They are a forged game improvement iron that has less offset and a thinner top line than most game improvement irons, but best of all,... they just feel wonderful when struck well. I like that most companies are now offering a forged game improvement iron for us avid golfers who dont want a big clunky club but don't have the "game" for a players iron either. The JPX-800 pros still get good distance without jacking up the length and lofts to gain distance like some others do. The Callaway Diablo forged irons are a nice set but the are pretty $$$, and the AP-2 forged irons are nice as well but not quite as forgiving as the JPX-800 pros in my opinion. Good luck in your search.

I agree with you totally about going with a club that gives you confidence. When I ordered my JPX-800 pros I just ordered 4iron - PW, which knocked $100 of the price. I saw no need in getting either the 3 iron or the GW since I carry a 3 hybrid and I prefer my GW to match my sand and lob wedge which are X-JAWS. Just something to keep in mind is that if you carry a hybrid and a GW you might want to exclude those from your order as well.

I also switched from a set of Fusions that I purchased new in 2005 and my specs for them were +.25", and 2deg up. I just fell in love with the JPX-800 pro irons when I hit them at a large demo days. I had been working with a pga instructor weekly for a couple months prior to my purchase, and I had totally reworked my swing and thought I was ready for some new sticks since I was working weekly with my instructor and practicing daily. The Mizuno rep fit me by trying different shafts and lengths and then he measured my hands and wrist to floor measurement. He them gave me what my specs should be,.... He said regular length, 2deg flat, and midsize grips. Even though I trusted the Mizuno rep I thought that my specs had to be off since I had been playing +.25 and 2deg up on my Callaway fusions. When I took my specs the next day to my local golf shop who was hosting the demo days I asked if he would mind refitting me just to be sure there wasnt something odd going on with my swing at the time even though I was making great contact and hitting the JPX-800 pros wonderfully. He then set up a JPX-800 pro 6 iron with the specs that the Mizuno rep had stated and I then hit several balls with it. In the end he said that the specs that Mizuno suggested were pretty close to his. He suggested 3 deg flat instead of the 2deg flat that Mizuno stated but he said that was just a minor difference between the two and that if needed at a later time he could easily adjust the lie on them. I just found it so odd at how my specs have changed so much from the Fusions to the JPX-800 pro irons. I had disk replacement in my upper neck a year after getting the Fusions and then laid off playing for a few years. So when I started back playing,.... I made a point to get with a good instructor weekly and practicing what he taught me on a daily basis. So,... in the end maybe my swing change is what changed my specs so dramaticly, but I still cant figure out how I changed my lie angle by 5 degrees. Another odd thing, was that I hit it a little farther with the JPX-800 pros as opposed to the Fusions. My instructor attributed that to me making more solid contact with irons that fit me. But in the end,.............. I love the look, feel and sound of my JPX-800 pro's.

Kahuna80, If you just want an inexpensive set to learn on,.... Go by your local golf store and tell them that you would like them to fit you for your set of irons. That is usually a free service if you buy from them but it isnt too expensive if you dont. I would say just tell them that you are new and learning and would like them to adjust your Maxfli irons to fit you. They can adjust the length by adding up to 1 inch if needed and they can adjust the lie angle as well and they can determine the size and brand and model of grips that you need and want. And in the end,... you will know you are playing to your specs.

I have tried both irons and several other different brands and I just fell in love with the look and feel of the JPX-800pro irons. I really doubt you can find a forged iron that has the distance and feel that the JPX-800 pro irons have,.... and still offer you forgiveness. Now,.... they are not a club for the newbie looking for maximum forgiveness, but they do offer forgiveness when you make a less than perfect swing and will not painfully punish you on those miss hits. There is a good review on this website under the equipment reviews on the JPX-800 pro. It is a pretty spot on review. But,.... bottom line is ya gotta find what looks and feels good to you.

I've recently hit a few different 3 woods on a launch monitor and at a local demo days. In my opinion the "longest" off the tee 3 woods would be some of the new Titanium 3 woods. They all have a larger head size and usually have a lil longer shaft as well, and are pretty lightweight. When I recently upgraded my 3 wood I went with the Taylormade R-11 3-wood because I was looking for something that would be a little easier to hit off the deck and I liked the slim head design and 15.5 deg loft on my R-11 as well. But, from your post it seems your looking for a 3 wood that you will primarly hit from the tee box. I would say you ought to try and demo the following fairway woods and see which you like the best: Adams F-11 Ti, Titleist 910FD, Taylormade Superfast 2.0, and the Taylormade R-11 Titanium. Those four should all be long off the tee.