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I'm sure people have thought of many different ideas to prevent losing a head cover on the course. Here's mine. I walk with a push cart and I'm always afraid my putter cover will drop off somewhere along the way. It's happened a few time before. I bought one of those retractable lanyard key chains on Amazon (the one I got has a carabiner on one end) and some alligator clips. Attached the key chain to my cart, the clip to the lanyard and my head cover. No more lost head covers.
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I understand the concern about bending a short wedge mainly because you are messing with the bounce, however where I play 99% of my golf (northwest Georgia) the most bounce I have found useful in hazards, traps or rough has not been over 10°. Taking a 54° wedge and bending it one degree from it's 10° bounce would leave me 9°. Plenty for the conditions I normally face. The real issue for me is I LIKE the 46,50,54,58 setup for the simple reason that it makes the variations of the short game so much easier to manage. Conversely having a 18-20 yard gap between the 5I to hybrid to 4 wood has created it's fair share of problems. I have thought about getting a shorter range hybrid but that creates an even larger hole between the hybrid and 4 wood. that's no good. I have thrown a 15th club (4I or 52°) wedge in on a few practice rounds and the results have been mixed. Loved the 4I but seldom needed to pull it. Loved the 52° but put a lot of pressure on it as it would be replacing the 50° and 54°. So add the 4 Iron and shakeup the wedges or quit whining I guess. Argh! Of course I realize that this is not an exclusive dilemma limited only to me 🙂. Every golfer faces the same questions and handles it in their own way but it has been extremely helpful to air it out with my fellow golfers. Great ideas flowing here.
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That's close to what I was talking about earlier, though I was looking to bend the 54 to 53 or bend my 52 to 53. The gapping would be all 5's. ie 43 48 53 58.
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Quick report. I put a 4 iron in and took the 50 and 54 out and played a round this morning. Seemed like every approach shot in I needed one of the two wedges, lol. Used the 4 iron once. And only because I wanted to hit it. I'm thinking I've got the optimum setup for me. The fewest draw backs. Purely subjective of course but right now I'll stick with the bag of wedges.
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I guess it really boils down to a question of do I want to accept a big gap at the top and have the wedges I want at the bottom or get used to bigger gaps at the bottom but fill in the gap at the top. On my home course where I play 90% of my rounds my current setup works very well. Maybe once every 3 or 4 rounds do I wish I didn't have that gap between the 5 iron and hybrid. When I go to some other courses that gap is much more noticeable. I have gotten a lot of great advice here and I'm going to do my homework and see what works best. I most inclined to look at removing one wedge from the setup and add the 4 Iron. Something like PW, 46°,52°,58°. I'm not positive that is the right answer but it will be easy to see if it would work as I already have the 4 Iron and 52°. I'm playing again in the morning and I'll report back if anyone is interested and post the results. Dang it, how come this game is great AND maddening at the same time?!
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Wow, I'm glad I brought this to forum. I'm getting some really positive feedback. I am going to approach this from two ways I think. First and foremost is get to the range with my hybrid and learn to take 10 yards off. That would be problem solved for the most part. Since I don't do anything but full shots with my PW (in my mind as WUTiger said, it's a 10 iron) I can keep my four wedges and be happy. The other thing I will do is take my 52 degree to the range and see how much I can vary the distance on that club. I can work my wedges pretty well with partial swings and knock down shots. Maybe I've just gotten a bit lazy and don't do as much shot making as I could to solve my own problem 😜 I thanks for truly helpful insights all. Actually am going to another course in the morning and I'll do exactly that! Thanks
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Thank you for the replies. Yes, it would be 43-46-50-54-58. Seems like 5 wedges but at 43 degrees the pitching wedge seems more like a 9 iron and other than situational chipping, I only use it for full swings. The reason for the 3 degree gap between the AP3 pw and the 46 degree Vokey is they are different type clubs and the gapping works. Still, I agree it seems like a lot wedges! lol. I do play them all at full swings though the 58 gets the majority of partial shots. If I went with the 48 degree wedge that I bought with my set, it would give me the cover distance the 46 does currently. Again, because of the difference of the AP3 and Vokeys. Then as I said earlier, 53, 58. Going this route means a lot more shots where I'd have to manufacture a variety of shorter distances rather than a full swing. I know, I know, that's golf. 🙂 Another thought I just had, since the full swing distances are the same between the AP3 48 and Vokey 46, is going PW,46,52,58. What do you guys think of that? Basically replace the 50 and 54 with a 52. Distance gaps in the 15ish yards range.
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So I have a set of Titliest AP3's with a 43 degree pitching wedge. To keep a 4 degree gap and 10 yards between wedges I've gone Vokey 46 50 54 48. My set stops at a 5 iron 25 degrees. From there to a Hybrid 22 degree, 18 Degree Fairway, Driver and of course a putter. 14 clubs. I really would like something between the hybrid and 5 Iron since there is an 18-20 yard gap there. So, I could remove the Vokey 46 degree and use the wedge that comes with the set, 48 degree, then bend a 52 degree to 53 and keep the 58. Would be like 110, 95, 80 for the wedge gaps. that would give me room to put the 4 Iron back in. Here is the dilemma, I LOVE having the 46-58 range of wedges. Seems like I'm never confused about which wedge to hit. Also from the tees I normally play from, this setup works well on my home course. BUT, when I go play at my brother-in-laws course or some other course in the area I find every round either trying to force a 5 Iron or take something off the hybrid. Don't do either particularly well. I've gone around and around on this so I thought I would ask about other peoples experiences and how they dealt with them.
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Iacas, Wow man, you REALLY need to get a life. If you have time to pull all those quotes together, "crush" each comment with razor sharp reasoning, destroy any other view point other than your own. And STILL be wrong, wow. Hats off. As for Lexi, I don't have time to figure it out now because I was watching a rerun of Arnold Palmer and when I email in what I saw Arnie do, the King's gonna have one less victory......
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Iacas, this is exactly what's wrong with the golf rules as they are and as they are enforced. If you had quoted me completely "So we have officials out there. It's laughable we say they are there in case the players have questions etc. They are there to enforce the rules." Is this the first time you've seen a definition that doesn't define what actually happens? It is laughable. In your long post, full of pointless point by points reminds me of the pompous USGA officials trying to pat themselves on the back for "protecting the game". Time to update the rules. Pure and simple.
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The ONLY way to make this a level playing field is to have a camera on every single player, watching their every move. Otherwise we are saying the leaders will have millions of referees watching them but the rest of the field is off the hook. The statement about "protecting the field" is understandable but lets "protect" everyone. Not just the ones who get televised and scrutinized. We want to say our sport is self-governed and that we call penalties on ourselves. If that were so we wouldn't have debacles like this over and over. The plain truth is we can run afoul of the rules in a hundred different ways and not know it. So we have officials out there. It's laughable we say they are there in case the players have questions etc. They are there to enforce the rules. DJ said he didn't move his ball. The rules guys say he didn't. Play on. Uh, no, he did! He did move it. Bam, he did move it because much later the officials said he did. Now Lexi gets bitten by the same crap. Only this time we wait UNTIL the next day. I love golf and I hope it never dies, but the ones "protecting" it are making us look like idiots.
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Thanks. I'll give them a shout.
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I have a question about having my Titleist 714 AP1's bent. I took my 6 iron to PGAtoursuperstore to have the loft bent 1 degree stronger to adjust my gaps between clubs. One of the workers took the club and was clamping it in when an older worker walked by and stopped him. He told him they couldn't bend 714 AP1's because the clamping will damage the backside of the club. He said no problem with 712's or lower but not the 714's. He said if I wanted them bent, I'd have to send them back to Titleist. Has anyone ever heard this before?
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I play 710's and love them. These are my first "players" clubs and it was a smooth transition from my Callaway X22s. The pitching wedge is 45 degrees so I did end up buying the 50 degree gap wedge straight from Titleist. It's a 712 and if anything, I like it a bit better than the 710s. Not enough to buy the whole set mind you :) They're a great choice and for 400 dollars I don't think you will find a better deal anywhere for such great clubs.
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Titlest 910 fairways vs Taylormade RBZ fairway
Dege replied to Jonnyy8699's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
I have the 910F in 15 and 19 degrees in my bag. I did have the 910Fd in 15 degree for awhile but even though it was great off the tee, I personally could not hit it very well off the deck. I found the 910F to be almost as long off the tee as the Fd and SO much more forgiving from the fairway. I can't give you a direct comparison but I can tell you I had replaced my TM burner fairway woods with the 910's and on my home course I have found myself on in 2 on two of the par 5's for the first time. The 910's are long, high and straight. I'm sure they're both great clubs but I am certainly happy with my choice. It's changed the way I play. -
I have a 15 degree 910Fd and a 19 degree 910F in my bag. I've found that the 910F is MUCH easier to hit off the deck compared to my 910Fd. Of course this is off winter Bermuda fairways that get tighter and tighter until the spring growth. I'm hoping that off a "regular" fairway I'll find the 910Fd a little easier to hit. It is long and straight from the tee box though.