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It looks a little fishy but I would make these points: 1. As others have said, if it was low gross then the handicap is a moot point, especially with another twosome attesting. 2. If their game was complimentary, a 6 and a 14 could certainly get pretty low. For example if one guy is a master on and around the greens, but really short while the other guy is a bomber with no short game, they could put up some pretty low numbers, even though independently they don't have a complete game to be a low handicapper. 3. Depending on where they typically play (course and tees) and where the tournament was set up, could make a difference. I know that the course rating comes into play in the calculation of the handicap, but if they were playing more difficult courses and from the tips on the calculation of their handicap, then moved up a box or two for the tournament, they could be long enough to be chipping and pitching into every green. That being said, if they won it last year with a similar score, they're definitely sandbaggers. The prize being so good certainly doesn't help, unless of course it was low gross. EDIT: Didnt' see it was Modified Alt Shot. Nevermind #2

Johnson is hurt right now.

Webb Simpson 276 Keegan Bradley 278 Luke Donald 278

Ben Crane. I would end up shoving him out of the way and hitting his putt for him after the 5th time he backed off it and re-read it.

Actually, I would put Forest Dunes above Arcadia, as far as the golf is concerned. Arcadia is an experience. It's a GREAT golf course, but it's the extras that make it special. The view along the bluffs is awesome. However, I play it at least once a year, usually 2-3 times. I still enjoy it every time, but it's a little different once you're accustomed to it. If you're basing your choice on just the course, Forest Dunes is better. It's not the same experience though. If I was choosing to play one or the other, one time, I would go with Arcadia. If I was choosing one to play every day, I'd take Forest Dunes. Lots of good tracks to choose from though. I really like Jim Engh designs, so Tullymore and True North are among my favorites. Throw in Elk Ridge, Black Lake, Bay Harbor, Treetops Signature, Boyne's Heather, etc. etc. etc. If only Michigan had a longer season to get all these rounds in!

If by "for naught" you mean to force a third playoff hole when he should have already lost the tournament, then I agree. Bubba hit a snap hook wedge from 155 yards out, 50 yards into the trees, off the pine straw, through a small gap in the trees to 10 feet of the pin.... to WIN THE MASTERS. I don't think he'll do that ever again in his lifetime.

I don't remember Bubba throwing his ball into the gallery, so that's probably why you couldn't find anything about trying to get the ball. They aren't going to strongarm a Masters champ for his winning ball. I think both sides have made good points, but I still think that with the outside factors (the pressure) on Bubba's shot puts him over the top. Sure he missed the putt (but of course he wasn't going to get over agressive, as he knew he had two to win). Hell Oostie couldn't get inside of Bubba's shot from 30 feet in front of the green. That says something right there. Hole in ones and DE require great shots, but again, after the ball hits the ground, it's mostly luck. That's why there are touring pros who've never hit a hole in one while Joe Duffer has four. DEs and HIO aren't the same I understand, but the point is that other than hitting it to an area on the front of the green, his shot could have just as easily rolled to within 6 feet instead of in the cup. The slightest breeze would have blown it off the line. An incredible feat no doubt, but it could have just as easily had been a 5 foot eagle putt as it was a DE, just based on the "luck" factors outside of his control. Again I wouldn't take anything away from either shot, but given the context of Bubba's I have give him the edge. IMPO of course.

I'm not from your area. Where I'm from there are several different "punch cards" with various courses that are put together by different entities. All the ones that I've seen or bought, seem to include 1 or 2 "premium courses" (which are supposed to sell the package), 1 or 2 "mid-range", then the rest are dog tracks. Every punch card is going to be different though, I'm not familiar with yours.

In my personal experience, unless I'm the first off the tee on Saturday morning, it's going to be the slowest round I play all week. I play a wide range of golf courses, depending on where I'm at, who I'm playing with, etc. I take clients and colleagues out several times per year, and we usually hit top 100 courses. Not really any way to save on these other than playing in the shoulder seasons. Other times, when I'm looking to just log a round in, I'll employ a few strategies. One is to use the online booking sites, where I usually just pick the best bang for my buck. Sometimes I can get really lucky, like last week when I found a tee time for a single for Sunday morning listed at $0.00. Paid the 2 dollar trans fee, thought I might have trouble getting the course to honor it, but no problems. $50 round for $2.00! I'll also try to find some go to twilight courses to hit after work. If the course is wide open I can usually get in 27 holes if I'm by myself. Also I've found there's almost always 2 for 1 coupons to be had, which keeps rounds around 25 bucks each for 2. There's also a few courses that offer free greens fees for your birthday, and if your birthday falls in the offseason (like mine) you just have to use it by July, which gives me about 5-6 free rounds a year. I've done the punch card thing that gives you rounds at 8 courses for cheap, but I've found that I don't save that much because I don't end up traveling to the more distant courses that are dog tracks, because I'd spend more in gas than it's worth for the free round. I've also tried to find memberships, but they're so overpriced in my area, especially for the quality of courses. Also given that I travel a lot, I'd have a hard time getting my money's worth. There is a couple courses that offer twilight memberships for $500 for unlimited golf after 3. Not bad, but I wouldn't do much better than break even on that, and I'd rather be able to switch it up now and then. Also I like GroupGolfer.com, they get some pretty solid deals on there, especially for some of the resorts up north in my state. Kind of a long winded answer, but there are lots of places to find cheap golf. There are so few marginal costs for a golf course that they'll cut deals all the time. Just have to look out for them.

for the sake of discussion? two very impressive shots but very different scenarios. Considering that they are going to be the most memorable shots of the 2012 Masters, I don't see why it would be odd to compare the two.

Sure it would have been just as good, but that's hindsight. At the time he hit that shot, Oostie was sitting in front of the green, with a very good chance of getting up and down for his par. If he puts that in the bunker, or shanks it, it's over. Like Jamo said, an albatross is an incredible feat, but it's still 50% skill and 50% luck. You would have a hard time putting from where his ball landed and rolled to the hole. Sure it was a hell of a shot and he was certainly aiming for that area, but there's no way from 250 yards out to pick that precise spot, and that precise line, at that precise speed to roll that thing in. It was skill up until the ball landed, then the golf gods took over. Still incredible, but there was also no pressure at that point.

Which was more impressive? Obviously the double eagle is the rarest thing in golf, and his shot was incredible. However, given the setting, the pressure, and circumstances, I'm leaning towards Bubba's shot. To be able to drop it to 10 feet from that lie with that much pressure is amazing. What are your thoughts?

Adam Scott -13 Rory McIlroy -12 Keegan Bradley -12