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After more research I see the Mizuno JPX 800 Pro's and Mizuno MP-53 fall in this same category as well. Mizuno MP-53 with an MOI of 13.4066 Mizuno JPX 800 Pro with an MOI of 13.2760 Titleist AP2 712 with an MOI of 13.1825 TaylorMade TP MC has an MOI of 13.0473 Mizuno MP-59 with an MOI of 12.08340 Titleist CB 710 with an MOI of 11.6609 Rocketbladez Tour no MOI data yet Callaway X Hot pro no MOI data yet To put that in perspective how the above measures up with a true MB Mizuno MP-69 has an MOI of 11.67670 I'd have to guess the RBladez Tour and Callaway XHot Pro will be roughly the same as the MP-53's in terms of playability and MOI. Of course a lot of other factors come into play.

Wow, the XHot Pro's have amazing reviews, I might have to give those a try!

Hi RichardR, I am not looking for forgiveness explicitly.What I am wondering is who hit the AP2's 712's and Rocketbladez Tour side by side and can speak about the forgiveness between them? or can compare the AP2's to the TM MC's? I hit the RBladez Tour and found them a ton forgiving but I also found a few issues with them. I preferred the AP2's 712's by a long shot and I am looking to trust another brand other than TMaG as I've been playing TMaG for the past 7 years, I don't think I actually ever had a different set of irons other than TaylorMade. Like I said, I played TM MC's which is actually less forgiving and playable than the 2 sets I listed but I am reluctant to simply switch to AP2's because it's a new brand and I am much less familiar with Titleist than TMaG. I have a VERY hard time putting something called "Rocketbladez" Tour with this "speed pocket (tm)" in my bag this year and my MC's are gone now and were in need of a replacement.

I am trying to decide which ones are right for me. I don't officially have a HCP. I typically shoot in the 80's and getting to play my irons puts a smile on my face. I have gamed the TM MC's with S300 all last year and had no issues ever hitting any one of them. I often replaced my driver with the 3 iron for more accuracy and control. I practice almost daily for an hour and play as much as I possibly can. I don't work the ball as much as some people would say they do except for shot trajectory. I am looking for some advice from someone who knows a little about the two sets in terms of forgiveness and such. Normally I'd consult a Maltby table for official numbers but the Rockebladez TOUR are not there yet. I hit the AP2's for a few hours this weekend at an indoor facility and I really liked them a ton, I've been contemplating either the Rocketbladez Tour or the AP2's. Can anyone give any advice between the AP2 712's and the Rocketbladez TOUR in terms of forgiveness?

Yea, it is nerve racking! We often ask if we can start off the back nine instead and they sometimes allow it. I hope people complain enough and they change the rules. I understand they need to make money but this negative experience will hurt their business eventually.

I don't really mind a little bit of slower play, I understand that everyone has a different skill level on the course and sometimes even the good ones have bad days or can get into trouble! First, what I do have a problem with is the courses packing in as many tee-times as possible; EVERYTIME we go out we've made a tee-time and EVERYTIME there is a line-up of 2, 3, 4, sometimes 6 groups on the first tee... what is the point of a tee-time if this is the mindset? Second, if you want to take your new girlfriend out golfing and help her please don't tee-off and hit 4 or 5 shots and show her how to swing while there is another group behind you! They have driving ranges for this!!! we had this happen once and they never let us go past them; we had to call a marshal and they sped it up. I really don't mind some slow play, it should be expected, we're not on tour and we're definitely playing amongst high handicappers and weekend warriors, we all make mistakes and hit bad shots too but if every hole is a wait I would hope the slow people would be courteous enough to let the faster players through, we do the same. Call me crazy but I think it all comes down to simply having respect and courtesy.

I am on the second day of the second week of C25k on my treadmill. The running intervals are getting longer from 1 min run which was the first week to 1.5 mins now. Next week it will be 3 mins interval running, can't wait! I need to lose 15lbs to be back into the target zone, my weigh-in for week 1 was Monday and I lost 3.2lbs within the first week!

I quit smoking 1 year ago from Jan 2nd 2012. I was 172lbs and believe it or not I was fit and active, I was a light smoker since I was 14, I am 32 and have 2 kids and decided it was time to quit out of respect for my family and myself; I gained 30lbs. Here I am one year later smoke-free on the C25k program and on day 3 of it, I am finding this program very easy and hope it gets harder as I progress. Even as a smoker I've been ultra active competitively my entire life so I want this to burrrrrrrrn, I guess it will eventually.

Hi Casey, Thanks for your response. I'm not worried about the money, it's only money :) I am just tired of my current clubs and "noise" around TaylorMade stuff and i fell in love with the MP-59's when I saw them and even more when I hit them, they performed very well. My only concern was forgiveness but you're right about the forgiveness comment. I've did a lot of research and apparently they are forgiving if not more forgiving than the Muscle Cavities found in the TM's I have. According to most reviews the forgiveness is the roughly same of a players cavity back which could mean a lot of different things, I am not sure if they refer to a Muscle cavity or whatever but either way I am already used to playing Muscle Cavities and this profile of club. Anyway, I think i'll go play with them one more time at the store and buy them today :)

Hey Everyone, I am new here, I come across this site often enough when I am researching stuff so I figured I might as well join the community. I used to play TaylorMade MC's last year (2012), I LOVED my 3i and sometimes used in replace of my driver for the added accuracy I gained from it; the entire set was very nice to play versus my previous TaylorMade CB's (2012 as well) and TaylorMade Burner 2.0's (2011). I have since tried out some MP 53's and 59's at the store and I am SOLD on the MP-59's in terms of looks, feel, and how the address. I went back to the store a few times since and tried them over and over again. Given that it is winter here I could not figure out the forgiveness in comparison to the MC's, I found the MC's quite forgiving. My iron play is my strong point in my game. I am trying to get away from this whole TaylorMade thing. I don't want to offend anyone or open a can of hate but I have grown real tired of this companies antics, I want to trust a company more "calm" with less gadgets and promises of changing tour forever etc so logically Mizuno is my next choice. I have tried Titleist in the past but I just don't feel it. Can anyone who's gamed the two before give me some sort of comparison? I am thinking about buying the MP-59's tonight.