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I just take divots from the fairway in anger and then replace the divots... feeling horribly stupid...

Not sure if there ever will be a conclusive end to the forged vs cast arguement. From my understanding of metals, the 8620 for instance cast well and forging doesn't change much of their properties. Therefore an identical club made from 8620 steel but one forged other cast will probably feel the same. For 10XX steels, they dont' cast well... The defect rate for 10XX steel cast is huge and it is a type of steel that forging compresses the molecules closer together and thus creates a better head for THAT type of steel. In the end the question is more likely to be are the 10XX series steel softer feeling than the 8620? I personally think so but that's just my opinion...

The sm's in general are not good for full swings as they put excessive spin on the ball. I'd imagine you'll be swing the 52* in a full swing... bending the sm might not be a good option.

I love my 3 iron and would not change it. It's simply the best for tight fairways, low punches and the sort. I am considering a 18* hybrid however.... the gap between my 3 wood and 3 iron is hampering my attack at par 5's on the longer courses and there is no way I can hit a 2 iron off the deck.

Thanks everyone for the information. I want to see a doctor and got some bad news... seems like graphite shafts will help but the scan show bad tears for me... so i'll be out for awhile... They have been started on strengthening exercises for the forearm muscles...

You must try both shafts to make a choice.... the rifles feel very different due to where the weight is in the shaft. I went with TT prurely based on feel.

Hi everyone... I have a major case of golf elbow... It was abit sore so i tried rubbing the tendon and now it's swollen.... in a really bad way... I know I have to rest, ice, compress and elevate and strengthen my wrist muscles but equipment wise is there anything I can do? Sensicore, graphite shaft? thanks for your help.

if you really need to drop a club get a 54* to replace the 52 and 56.

Hi Everyone, I'm a wedgeaholic and see many topics on this subject so I thought I might make a post on it. I own all three wedges and all three are in play at the moment. The CG12's and x-forged are in my normal bag and i use the vokey SM's for pitch and putt (greens are rock hard, impossible to make pitch marks). ok so here it is: Feel: x-forged are the softest feeling followed by the SM's then by the CG12's. The CG12's are firm stainless steel and though they don't feel bad they aren't the best for feel. They are abit firm and muted in feedback compared to the others. Between the x-forged and SM, the x-forged has the mellow buttery feel similar to the mizuno's. You do not get the same mellowness from the SM's. Spin: SM's spin the most for the partial wedge. For this reason i use them for pitch and putt. I find their spin excessive for full swings but their ability to apply spin for the 1/2 to 3/4 swings is invaluable. x-forged with MD's are up their with the SM's but don't bite quite as much. Full swing the x-forged also spin the ball excessively. The CG12's spin well, best of the lot out of the rough but partial swings just don't get the same purchase on the ball... Destroying the ball: SM's and x-forged with MD's both ruin the ball... the CG12's on the other hand i've found to be quite ball friendly. Durability: After 4 months, the x-forged and the SM's show wear. The groves are shallower. For the SM's the micro groves at the sweet spot are almost gone now. The CG12's, though scratched up, the groves are virtually unaffected. Sand/rough: I find the CG12's easiest out of the sand, they are large and heavy and glide through. I found the SM's to be most difficult in the sand due to their small head size and lighter head weight. Appearance: x-forged are roundish, SM's give you the feeling that you can aim for a 10 inch radius and the CG12's appear abit clumsy in this crowd. They look and feel like blunt instruments next to the SM's which are like surgical instruments. Forgiveness: CG12's are the most forgiving of the bunch in terms of sweet spot (as expected, largest head) and ability to cover up fat shots. SM's and teh x-forged are line ball in this respect. They demand precision but in return give you precision. Conclusion: I wouldn't change my current setup but if the CG12's were made out of the x-forged material, then i'd be much happier... A couple of my friends have the CG14. I personally can't handle the fact it's got an insert but if you can it's a better club than the CG12. It's more forgiving and softer in feel. thanks.

I have a bigger hobby that golf and it is photography, you miss focused on the beam behind =) hehe for pictures like that put it into macro mode, and if it's an slr you're using then i'd guess you'd know you need a macro lens. anyway, golf is a game where if something's on your mind it can affect your play. See if you have insurance on your credit card that covers it or something, or use it as a practice driver if it'll help you play better. of course i hope you can still play with it, from the looks of it, it should help your play if you accidently hit the ball bottom toe and otherwise won't affect you much at all...

I use the SM's for pitch and putt golf because of the rock hard greens they have. I find after getting use to the Clevelands, the SM's feel like surgical instruments whilst the CG12's feel abit blunt... However, I am much more consistent with the CG12's (hitting off grass) and they are easier out of the rough and sand. All in all i prefer the CG12's for proper golf where i don't require rediculous amounts of spin.

Yes Iacas is wrong, not sure if it's this site or the golfwrx but there is an interview with the head ball designer at TM. Plus it's pretty darn clear from the website.

No easy answer but 14* bounce is the norm so probably would be the safest bet. Do you thin it alot or catch it fat?if your'e catching it fat definately go the 14 bounce.

I disagree based on the website and personal experiance... Red is for players who spin it too much. Ie high spin players. Yes it's softer but still spins less. Revisit the site or the interview with the TM ball designer. The tour players wanted this cause they found it difficult to attack back pins with the high spin balls. Therefore, red = pro v1x Black is for the lower spin player that needs more spin. V1 = black

you don't feel the ball? isn't this a bad thing? How do you get feel for a chip if it doesn't have feel...