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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
IACAS....a slightly cupped wrist may be due to a more open face being used for a shorter higher shot,but the wrist is not flipping at impact.....David in FL is flipping.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Jakester....it is a matter of split second timing,I think you are picking up on the action too late in the swing.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Thanks all ,good debate,doesn't look like anyone is crossing lines though.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Ok ,at least I'm in good company,Phil,Lee and me- all wrong.......but still not quite convinced.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Check out what Phil says at the 1:01 mark about the wrist in a flop shot- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Is there something wrong with what Mickelson and Trevino have shown.I did not realize that there was such a big blind spot when it comes to flipping the wrists at impact.This includes the full swing as well.Am I the only one that thinks flipping the club at impact is a common AM problem that PROs don't have.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Iacas, & David in FL...thanks for the input.All I can say is that pros have firm non-flipping left wrists at impact and I will go with Mickelson and Trevino on this.Like the putting action,the wrists need to be taken out of the equation thus removing the flippy inconsistencies.This is why you see reverse overlap grips in not only putting but suggested by some instructors for chipping or short pitching.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
I'm not arguing anything, just saying that the pros left wrist at impact and beyond is flat and firm which is not the case in the OP's video suggesting a flipping action. Even in a Phil flop shot vid he refers to the flat wrist rather than a flippy one which will thin the shot.I won't post that vid since I sense this observation I am making is not very popular.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Jakester...impact is where it's at,that is what we are most interested,the moment of truth.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
At the 16 sec mark you can see the ball is well on it's way and the club head is passing the hands (which it has to do at some point) ,but the important left wrist has not flipped or cupped,it is flat and firm.The wrist position is the key .- 776 replies
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freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Jakester....you'll see TW keeping that left wrist flat and firm on through impact.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Ok all ,but I think you'll find all the teaching vids really shy away from any short game wristy action.That left wrist wanting to cup at impact is the big hurdle that separates the Ams from Pros.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
OK...but I will say the guys in the video are working off a fluffy lie,if that was a tighter lie I think their technique would have trouble.In one of the shots I thought the guy hit a fat shot but the club managed to get under the ball because of the cushion he had,it would have be a skulled shot on a tighter lie. The flippy wrist is a major problem in full or partial shots for non-pros.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Let's be sure we are both talking the impact position and just after...there is a wrist breakdown in the video .Here is Trevino on it...the chip & pitch techniques being the same.- 776 replies
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freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
yes ,Jakester,the first video with the two guys working on the pitch.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
I really have never seen a pitching instruction that suggests wrist breakdown is alright,just the opposite.The speed required comes from allowing the body to turn through.Any wrist breakdown means tricky timing and inconsistent strikes (fat & thin).A cupped wrist after impact indicates the wrist was in the process of breaking down as it approached impact.- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
Jakester,whether chipping or pitching,I don't believe the left wrist can go into a flip position...it must be held flat and firm .- 776 replies
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Quickie Pitching Video - Golf Pitch Shot Technique
freedrop replied to iacas's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
According Phil Mickelson and Trevino pitching lessons the OP quickie chipping video is wrong...the left wrist is breaking down and in a flipped position through the impact position....it should be flat.- 776 replies
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Experimenting with the "Baseball" Grip
freedrop replied to stogiesnbogies's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
The ten finger grip king is Moe |Norman who had the grip running along the lifeline of the right hand.I think it may be "a secret" of golf.It is different from a baseball grip. -
One thing that jumps out is you don't make a 90* left shoulder turn .No matter what golf swing method you use,I have never seen a pro NOT make a 90* turn.
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Watch the Lee Trevino youtube video on this,he refers to Steve Stricker as well in it.It's a dead wrist lifting action on the way back needed rather than a wristy cocking action.Ball back in stance and weight (ie hips) stay forward.
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This is a big question but the last 3 fingers of the left hand and middle 2 of the right need to be on squarely (for an RH player).How this is done is mystifying since al the pros do it but have different ways of getting there.As for the left thumb I think needs to more extended than not,but again this is a point of debate.