CoachinPA

I'm surprised at the response. I figured if I would get a sympathetic ear anywhere it would be on a golf forum.... I'm not saying golf is dying 100%. I agree that my original point can lead towards that conclusion. I was just trying to state that it would be nice to get some younger players who we can play with for years to come. It could just be the field I am in. Big engineering company. Maybe there are just too many people who don't know the difference between a birdie and a shuttlecock

Its definitely a good discussion. I do understand all the arguments. I really do. I'm just pointing out the shift in corporate America I guess. Whereas the older employees are more likely to have participated in leagues and now the younger employees rarely do. ---- boogielicious---- I'm glad to see that someone else has seen this effect. We get the same BS line about Work/Life Balance.... make sure you don't burn yourself out/ ignore your life cause you're working too much...........that's bad for your stress/health/relationships....... and then the upper management comes along and gives lines like we expect everyone to have a goal this year of 2-4 uncompensated overtime hours a week to reduce overhead costs..... one other point. My company just closed down 5 sites across the country. The decision to close those sites and force either layoffs or relocations was made by someone who has never seen these people, doesn't care about their names or whether they worked 40 hrs or 60 hours a week for 40 hrs pay. It doesn't really matter. Obviously this applies to larger companies only. We are lucky enough to be able to work hours in any combination I want during the week as long as we get to 40. so it could be 10,10,10,10 and then 3 days off if you wanted. we can also telecommute, AND we can set our own schedules. 6AM to 3PM no problem 10AM to 6PM no problem. At home from 11pm to 1 AM doesn't matter..... so even with all of these options and with 3000 employees we can't get 1-2 people to take 2 hours a week to play 9 holes

All great replies, I am of the opinion that if you want something bad enough you will find ways to make it work. I understand that not everyone can get out at 3pm but I feel like it's become a taboo subject to even think about flexing time. People are terrified, and I get that, but does that mean that at some point in the future if your boss "requests" you work on the weekend you would give up your golf to do so? And then what happens when he or she doesn't even ask anymore but just expects it? The job market is extremely competitive now so i guess the mentality could be "well if you're not willing to do it, I got 15 resumes on my desk of people who will" My main point was that it seems to be a "younger" phenomenon. I hear stories of softball, basketball leagues and work picnics, and golf leagues from guys who have been working here for 30 years. Now most of these things are dying slow painful deaths as the truly old just can't physically do it anymore but aren't being replaced by younger people. Must be a combination of inflation/ greed/ competition/ that has gotten work in America to this point. Employers are definitely controlling all the power From wiki- points against standard working hours Increased costs of running businesses Employers may use various measures to offset the cost increases, such as: lowering average hourly/annual compensation using part-time rather than full-time employees lowering or canceling year-end bonuses, etc. When employees are forced to work part-time jobs, they may need to acquire additional employment to maintain standard of living. [74] Lower production output Increase in energy load on the grid during peak hours. Extend retirement age, the lifelong work hour may not change Standard working hours favor employer needs and can cause issues with achieving work-life balance. Forces employees to work overtime in some situations Appropriate standard working hours can vary across different industries based on the type of work performed. Certain professional positions are difficult to define in terms of appropriate working hours. May need different exclusions Issues can arise with employers expecting employees to work extra hours "off the clock" in order to keep costs down.

cool. I'm here from King of Prussia

Wanted to share some thoughts on a phenomenon that I have noticed over the last 10+ years. I have a work golf league. Been playing in it since i was 21. Now 36. Over the years the league has fluctuated in size from 30+ to only like 12. And even when we get new players they are rarely young players, more likely to be retirees. So my observation is that both my generation and the younger ones are so scared to take any time off from work that they can't even find one day a week to leave the office around 3pm. I'm in a big company with over 3000 employees and we struggle to get 1 new player a year. I ask people all the time and the response is almost always "I can't get out of work/ don't have time". I think people have become too pressured and almost slave like. Stand up for yourself and don't work 60-70 hour weeks while only getting paid for 40! Am I the only one seeing this?

We use USGA handicapping. with Equitable Stroke Control. So scores get adjusted and then used for handicapping. We use an online website that takes care of all of the complicated scorekeeping/ handicapping. As for the high versus low handicapper and the 85% rule, it really won't matter over a long period as long as you don't drop any scores. We play 10 week seasons and only keep the best 5 rounds. so in our case the Equitable Stroke Control makes it pretty even.

I play in two leagues and we have guys who get more than the 36 stroke maximum recommended by the USGA.... seriously many guys come in in the upper 50's to 60's for 9 holes. As for finding a league, go to your local golf courses and ask the people in the office. I did that and found out that my golf course has 8 leagues! You could also try searching online. There are some sites that post golf leagues etc.

Thanks! and yes I agree that better contact equals longer drives. in 20 years of golf though I have had plenty of years where my contact was good. I generally overpower most courses I play from the standard tees since most leagues i play in play from the standard tees. Its when i get to the tips that I realize I could use some more pop. I'd say I average a solid 240-260 I go in to the launch monitors and they show 290-300. I don't see that on the courses though. I have hit it over 300 on the course many times but probably with tailwind/ downwind/ dry ground help

Thanks! I actually like that video showing the over speed. makes sense. I'll do some working out and try to incorporate that stuff into practice.

So I agree your swing is good and likely produces good results. The things I noticed are on the past swings you tended to drop just a little too much which can cause fat shots and crowding of your arms. That looks like its not quite as bad on the newer swings but the big thing for you is the head. You're almost reaching back like you don't have trunk flexibility and your shoulder is sweeping your chin away from the target In order to compensate for the lack of rotation you're collapsing your left knee a little which can also cause fat shots. As for a draw. there are many things that cause it, but its not a terrible thing to have a small draw. Your new stance is slightly closed, grip might be strong although its tough to tell in the small video. In truth, the best thing is to practice and figure it out yourself. Its tough to hear 700 different opinions on a forum. might drive you crazy thinking too much!

So I swing driver at 105. Bare minimum for Pro golfers. How are these guys getting 125? I'd settle for 110-115. Now I don't really do much working out beyond jogging a couple days a week. So should I think about weights? Medicine balls? Stretch bands? Any experience would be greatly appreciated. Types of moves? Types of Drills? Stretches? anything really..............

I tried this once. It was interesting, only problem was it was so expensive. If I remember correctly it was over a thousand dollars for like 12 sessions with the trainers and you could show up and hit into a net if you wanted to also. Crazy, might have even been over 2 grand actually.

Best thing to do to get into the low 80's is gonna sound cliche' but you need to play more often. When I started in high school 20 years ago I shot 62 for 9 holes and didn't make the team that year. Lol. I played 5 days a week that summer sometimes 36 holes. Came back and shot 42! Made the team and by the time I left I posted a 36 or two in competition. So the thing is once you reach that plateau of low 80's or 70's etc its easier to get there again. Now it seems impossible, but once you do it you can do it again mug easier