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Fair enough. I think I have a grand total 8 whole rounds with four different caddies under my belt and all were excellent.

Have you walked and played with a caddy? Once you do, you really don't want to go back!

So this whole discussion is inapplicable to you. After all, you keep your clubs for 5 years so, even if you keep them in mint condition, they are so obsolete as to be useless and therefore of no value, correct? And, yes, a tour pro is paid to play the clubs. And, as observed earlier in this thread, many of them do not change clubs for years. Finally, the at best incremental changes in club technology may be something a pro has the ability to sense and utilize. You, me and all the rest of the hackers with anything short of a plus handicap. . . not the same.

Yes. I did say that. But that does not lead to the conclusion that irons are improving. How do equipment companies make money in a shrinking industry? They hail "breakthrough technology" that really don't exist so they can sell more clubs. It's called marketing. And the press is complicit in it as they write reviews of products made by their advertisers. The reality is that in the past decade there has been, at best, incremental improvements in irons. But you know that already. So, I'll ask you a question: How long do you keep your average set of irons?

Hmmm. That's what we call in the debate game a red herring. . .

Good point. I'd forgotten the quantum leaps in iron technology in the past 5 years.

Iron covers, ball retrievers, golf tubes, etc. Doesn't matter, don't care. . . as long as you play quickly! Sadly, in my experience, the more detritus of that nature in one's bag, the slower one plays. Not always. Sure, there are exceptions. But definitely more often, those players play slower. And, since most courses won't follow through with the death penalty for slow play, we all suffer for it. I must say, I am amused at the notion of protecting one's investment with iron covers. Seems to show a lack of commitment to one's tools of the trade. If one doesn't want them dinged to protect resale value, then one never really intended to keep them long term anyway. Of course your irons will not behave when disrespected like that!

Wouldn't a 5.8 beat a 5.8 50% of the time?

I would have liked to ask him, "How many golfers in the world have practiced 10,000 hours?" If that number is greater than the number of players on the PGA Tour, why did he think he would have a chance to make the PGA Tour when, obviously, many who reached and exceeded that magic number did not?

That being the case, who the heck is Richard Chen???

Warm up: Row 500m on C2, 2 rounds of 10 OH squats with bar, 10 push ups, 10 sit ups, 10 53# kb swings Back Squat (ass to heels): bar x5, 95# x 5, 135# x 5, 185# x 3, 195# x 3, 205# x 3, 215# x 3, 220# x 3, 225# x 3, 230# x 3 Standing Press: bar x 5, 95# x 5, 3 sets 135# x 5 Power cleans: 135#, 5 sets of 3 Finisher: Barbell roll outs, 3 sets of 5