Fireblade

Newsflash: Sexual preference seriously changes how attractive you appear to the "opposite, opposite" sex. What happened to liking those things you can never have? I'm out...

It is interesting to read the posts to this thread and how it has wandered off topic - a little like some of my putts :) The OP asked a question about the ruling for placing a ball forward of the original marked position. It is my opinion that whilst you all make good points about "what if the 6" ..." and how the ball may or may not sink, what is most important here is to remember that golf is an honour game, and we each of us promise to adhere to the rules. So it is a mute point as to what happens once the ball is in motion, what is important is that it is was replaced in the wrong location and should incur a two shot penalty for playing from the wrong place. What happens once the ball is in motion is irrelevant.

Ah, in which case I give you...

I'm more of a Kelly Tilghman man, sadly we never see her in a tight little outfit. AND that is where I am leaving this discussion ;)

I'm glad it is not just me. I find the Genie chick looks a little ****ty, IMVHO. I have always believed that advertisers really do not need to dress up their product to sell it to me - when they do it screams "WARNING" as their product probably really NEEDS to be dressed up. WTF am I on about it is the Golf Channel everything is about sex...

I agree we should not feel the need to prop up the TM machine. so I just posted my wife's TM Burner 2.0 clubs on eBay and bought her a nice replacement set of ProMaster off Craigslist. I think they may be a little long for her but I'm sure she will feel good about the decision.

The rules can sometimes seem strangely in favour of better players. Like you said having to play from another players divot on a fairway when you are new to golf, for example. When I attended the NCGA on-course rules program I was somewhat amused by Ryan Gregg the Director of Education when in answer to another attendees question about "what should I do when the rules seem unfair...?" he replied 'PLAY HARDER! It is interesting how many people complain about other players for how they behave on course, course supers for the way the course is maintained (or not) or just complain in general, yet they fail to realise that they too can very easily become a part of the problem. Failing to repair pitch marks, divots on tee boxes fairways and aprons of greens, littering - yes leaving broken tees on the tee is littering, and any other seemingly minor infraction all count toward another player possibly having to navigate the rules, because of YOU. That is the royal you btw... There are campaigns for play it forward and lots of other cute little ideas, but I would like to see more players 'protecting the field' by ensuring that their group acknolwedge honour, cares for the course and makes a real contribution toward the round your partners are playing.

Piers Morgan is a db of the highest order so it is no surprise to hear that he is attracting similar types.

Indeed & I seriously doubt anyone will be throwing their TM clubs in the lake because of his outbursts. But if you don't have anything really interesting or meaningful to say, why not just say nothing? I would prefer to see the largest golf manufacturer in the industry lead by example not aggression & being outspoken. It really doesn't endear you to anyone.

Looking at Mr. King's comment just reminds me of what an odious little man he is. Who has made a few comments which, in my opinion, have been worthless. The Tiger Woods has killed the game remark aside, let's not forget that he urges players to ignore the R&A; / USGA on the subject of anchoring & long putters. He even went as far as to say that within 10 years the USGA would be a non-factor. So I decided to do my own research & a quick search on the tint-a-net sourced some very interesting data. Two pieces which piqued my fancy are: 1. The National Golf Foundation (NGF) produced an 8pp pdf 'Golf Participation in America 2010-2020 http://cgmaterials.com/pdf/GolfPartic.pdf which pretty much lays it out. 2. In his 211pp PhD dissertation "THE CHANGING FACE OF THE GAME AND GOLF’S BUILT ENVIRONMENT" David Huebner fails to mention Tiger Woods, at all. (should you feel up to it http://www.clemson.edu/centers-institutes/pennell/PDFs-2012/David-Hueber-Dissertation-7-17-12.pdf) However what he does posit is that: 'During the 20th century, there were three “boom” periods of accelerated golf course development that peaked in 1930, 1970 and 2000. The first boom in the 1920s built private golf courses for the upper class. The second boom in the 1960s built public golf courses for the burgeoning middle class. And, the third boom in the 1990s built golf courses in anticipation of the latent demand from the huge “Baby Boomer” generation who were expected to play more often as they aged, entered the prime of their working lives and later retired. While the first two golf course development booms were driven in response to actual socio-cultural and economic phenomena, the third boom was anticipatory in nature and driven more by the real estate speculation on the part of both the real estate developers and buyers.' Got to love academics... So as Nike sign Rory McIlroy to a monster, multi-year contract reportedly worth $50 million to $100 million. With Woods also still on board, and playing well, Team Swoosh now has the game's two biggest global icons. Whilst Mr. King just has his merry band of Tour pros playing TM; which costs him somewhere in the region of $180m per year in endorsements, & a diminishing share of the $218b golf product market, which declined c$300 in 2007 alone. But it's all Tiger's fault don't ya know! I guess a big mouth keeps some skin in the game then?

Wow what a thread, there is eleven minutes of my life I won't be getting back!

Done.

Always worn a glove and always will. That said I sweat through a couple of gloves a round when it's warm, so ai remove my glove after every shot and that way I also don't end up with one sun tanned hand and one white one.

I prefer Monarch, but I'm trying to like Metro more. San Geronimo is a nice little course and it's quite a mean little track too. You should try it.