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I'm currently playing r7 Tp irons with Flighted Rifle 6.0's, had the same irons with S300's before hand. I'm looking at getting a set of the Rac MB TP Smoke Blades, and I'm thinking about ordering them with the project X. When my swing is off I tend to flip the rist and hit the ball high with almost no divot (like a sweep swing), when my swing is on, I hit more down and through the ball with a nice divot and a more penetrating flight. Now, obviously these things all depend on each persons individual swing, but I'm looking to get some different views on these shafts as well with anybodys experience with them. and if anybody has hit all three shafts and seen/felt a difference. thanks in advance.

r11s TP 9 Aldila RIP'd NV 65 S
Burner Tour Launch TS 13 UST V2 S
TP Rescue 17 RE*AX TP85 H S
Tour Preferred Irons 3-AW Project X 5.5
Z Smoke TP Wedge 56/12 Project X 5.5 

Ghost Tour DA-12

Penta TP/Pro V1/Hex Black


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the above websites, I learned after posting this message, are quite informative...

I have interest in the TaylorMade smoke TP MB as well. I currently play a forged cavity back which I am basically fond of. These clubs have S300 shafts. I will spend the off season looking at the topic of blades or cavity backs. Out of the irons I hit just into the net the MB TP smoke interested me the most. The smoke TPs come with Tour Flighted according to the website. It is interesting to note that the RAC TP MB not in smoke are geared for a 105mph driver speed where as the smoke are geared for a 90. I think that this is a result of the shaft that come standard on the two different clubs. However also on the website there is a graphic which compares tradjectory. It seems the smoke has more of a fade bias then the non-smoke TP MB. Just as a sidenote...

In terms of the differences between the rifle shafts I sorry I know little. What I have heard about the difference between the S300 and the Project X is I think that the tip is slightly more flexible. I have not been to demo clubs with these different shafts as much as I'd like. You have more experience then me and I suppose this is somewhat of a self centered post because I am curious what you end up doing. It seems as if a good deal of the pros I see on TV have the Project X shaft. The Project X are available in parallel and taper tip. What I think this means is one is custom length and the other is trimmed to specific length. I could be wrong. The weight for the flighted rifle is 112-127 while the X in 6.0 is 125. Weight effects the stiffness.

Driver: 4DX T 10.5 Evolver w/ Redboard
Hybrids: G5: 16*, 19*, 22*
Irons: Ping Eye 2 +no+ (5-PW)
Wedges: CG12: 52/10, 56/14, 60/10
Putter: C&L flowneckBall: Z-Star


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Yea from what a pro I know told me, the reason alot of the pros use the Project x is because they hit the ball so high to begin with that the flattening effect on the ball from the x's help them. Another somewhat secret as to why so many pro's hit the ball so much further is because most of there irons arent the stock loft angle, most of them have all of there clubs 2 degrees stronger than standard, then with the help of the right shaft, they can hit a 3 iron 250 yards unlike most of us, that and the fact they they hit hundreds of balls a day haha, but anyways. Now my dilemma is, I either want to get the Smoke TP's with the Flighted Rifles, or the Tour Preffered cavity's that replaced my current r7 TP irons, with the project x's. My theory is that if I get into that funk of not being able to get good contact with the long irons from the MB TP Smokes, I can replace them with my r7 TP's with the flighted's to mix and make things easier. Or if I get the Project x's in either of them, at least I have 2 sets of irons with different shaft properties. I've heard that if you don't really hit the ball high, the project x is not for you, especially if you play on hard greens, because you won't be able to stop the ball. So we shall see, let me know your thoughts...

r11s TP 9 Aldila RIP'd NV 65 S
Burner Tour Launch TS 13 UST V2 S
TP Rescue 17 RE*AX TP85 H S
Tour Preferred Irons 3-AW Project X 5.5
Z Smoke TP Wedge 56/12 Project X 5.5 

Ghost Tour DA-12

Penta TP/Pro V1/Hex Black


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Another somewhat secret as to why so many pro's hit the ball so much further is because most of

Where did you hear that? I'm pretty sure a lot of pros actually weaken their loft. I have heard that Tiger's PW is at 50-52* of loft. But if you have something where I could read about that then that would be great.

Here's what I play:

Titleist 907 D2 10.5* UST ProForce V2 76-S | Titleist 906F4 18.5* Aldila VS Proto "By You" 80-S | Titleist 585H 21* Aldila VS Proto "By You" 80-S | Titleist ZB 4-PW TTDG S300 | Bob Vokey Spin Milled Oil Can 54.10 | Bob Vokey Spin Milled Oil Can 60.08 | Scotty Cameron Red X5 33" |


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Most of it is from in conversation with tour guys I know, but I know I've read it as well, I'll look around and let you know where my documents are. Your right as well with them weakening lofts, It just depends on who it is, what clubs they use, and what their swing is like really, i think we all know Tiger is in a bit of a league of his own. More importantly, do you have any input on the topic of this post?

r11s TP 9 Aldila RIP'd NV 65 S
Burner Tour Launch TS 13 UST V2 S
TP Rescue 17 RE*AX TP85 H S
Tour Preferred Irons 3-AW Project X 5.5
Z Smoke TP Wedge 56/12 Project X 5.5 

Ghost Tour DA-12

Penta TP/Pro V1/Hex Black


Posted
Most of it is from in conversation with tour guys I know, but I know I've read it as well, I'll look around and let you know where my documents are. Your right as well with them weakening lofts, It just depends on who it is, what clubs they use, and what their swing is like really, i think we all know Tiger is in a bit of a league of his own. More importantly, do you have any input on the topic of this post?

Okay thanks, and sorry yes I have input.

If your ball flight is higher the you would like I would say go the the Non-Flighted shaft, but if you need a little bit of help in your long irons, and want a penetrating ball flight in your lower clubs then I would say go with the flighted shafts. Good luck in your quest for new sticks

Here's what I play:

Titleist 907 D2 10.5* UST ProForce V2 76-S | Titleist 906F4 18.5* Aldila VS Proto "By You" 80-S | Titleist 585H 21* Aldila VS Proto "By You" 80-S | Titleist ZB 4-PW TTDG S300 | Bob Vokey Spin Milled Oil Can 54.10 | Bob Vokey Spin Milled Oil Can 60.08 | Scotty Cameron Red X5 33" |


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