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I have read many threads on putters here on TST; but would still like some help.

I want a new putter because I think my current never compromise ncx-ray is great but seems to fight me in the back swing.  I think it's engineered for a SBST stroke but i have a natural arc stroke.

I determined my stroke style by setting up in putting address next to a wall with the putter 1/4" off the base board.  When I try to hit SBST it's erratic, when i do it naturally, it's 3 inches ff the board on back and through but hits the 1/4" mark for impact. On the course,I see my putter trying to pull to the right and forward, while my hands want to pull back and right.

My buddy just got a Scotty Cameron Newport and it feels so smooth I think its time for a change for me.

My question for the group is what Scotty Cameron works best for the arc swing? I am used to a mallet but can adjust if needed. Before my never compromise, I played a ballata insert mallet that was awesome but seemed to always leave me short on lags. I am starting to think the hotter never compromise putter is just filling the short lags at the expense of the accuracy 6 feet and less.

Driver - Cleveland Launcher, Aldila DVS 55-R Shaft, cutoff to 42" 4 Wood - TaylorMade Burner 2.0 Superfast Hybrid - TaylorMade R11 Rescue, 18.5* Irons - 4-P TaylorMade R7 Wedges - Cleveland Forged 588's 50*, 54*, 60* Putter - Scotty Cameron Newport 1.5 Ball - Bridgestone E6 :-P


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Odyssey has several insert option so you can choose the firmness you like. I was a White Hot guy for years but did not like the softness on lag putts. I am now a White Ice guy and like the feel a lot. As a SBST guy, I look for face balanced. You may wish to have a toe hanger. Lots of good choices. Make sure you get one that is the correct length -- when screwing that up, most buy too long. Lifted from another site...

"Here is a list of Odyssey inserts from softest to hardest:


White Hot XG
White Hot/Tri-Hot
White Hot Tour/Black i
White Ice
DFX/Crimson
Dual Force/Tri-Force

I omitted the White Steel as it is very inconsistent depending on where you hit in the face. "

Make sure you test putters with the ball you play.

Russ - Student of the Moe Norman swing as taught by the pros at - http://moenormangolf.com

Titleist 910 D3 8.5* w/ Project X shaft/ Titleist 910F 15* w/ Project X shaft

Cobra Baffler 20* & 23* hybrids with Accra hybrid shafts

Mizuno MP-53 irons 5Iron-PW AeroTech i95 shafts stiff and soft stepped once/Mizuno MP T-11 50.6/56.10/MP T10 60*

Seemore PCB putter with SuperStroke 3.0

Srixon 2012 Z-Star yellow balls/ Iomic Sticky 2.3, X-Evolution grips/Titleist Lightweight Cart Bag---

extra/alternate clubs: Mizunos JPX-800 Pro 5-GW with Project X 5.0 soft-stepped shafts


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Originally Posted by Mithrys

I have read many threads on putters here on TST; but would still like some help.

I want a new putter because I think my current never compromise ncx-ray is great but seems to fight me in the back swing.  I think it's engineered for a SBST stroke but i have a natural arc stroke.

I determined my stroke style by setting up in putting address next to a wall with the putter 1/4" off the base board.  When I try to hit SBST it's erratic, when i do it naturally, it's 3 inches ff the board on back and through but hits the 1/4" mark for impact. On the course,I see my putter trying to pull to the right and forward, while my hands want to pull back and right.

My buddy just got a Scotty Cameron Newport and it feels so smooth I think its time for a change for me.

My question for the group is what Scotty Cameron works best for the arc swing? I am used to a mallet but can adjust if needed. Before my never compromise, I played a ballata insert mallet that was awesome but seemed to always leave me short on lags. I am starting to think the hotter never compromise putter is just filling the short lags at the expense of the accuracy 6 feet and less.

Any that isnt a mallet is going to work well for an arc.  Most people prefer the Newport because its pretty much the same thing as a Ping Anser.  Dont just limit yourself to Camerons though, theres lots of other very, very nice putters on the market that are just as good as a Cameron and cost much less.

Whats in my :sunmountain: C-130 cart bag?

Woods: :mizuno: JPX 850 9.5*, :mizuno: JPX 850 15*, :mizuno: JPX-850 19*, :mizuno: JPX Fli-Hi #4, :mizuno: JPX 800 Pro 5-PW, :mizuno: MP T-4 50-06, 54-09 58-10, :cleveland: Smart Square Blade and :bridgestone: B330-S


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I can't comment on Scotty's as I don't play one.

However, i had the same issues as you with my various mallets (which is all i've played for as long as i can remember)--especially on shorter putts, and recently I unretired an ancient Ping Anser-2 (which is "better" for an arc stroke) from my basement; I am putting SO much better.  And even though the Ping has no insert, i've found it easier to control short putts as well as long ones...

So basically i'd go to the golf shop and toy around--and as essentially every single company has some sort of variant on that style, you might find your "anser" (sorry, pun intended!) for far less than a $300 Scotty.

Driver: Cleveland Classic 270, 10.5*
Fairway Woods: Adams Speedline LP (3 & 5)
Hybrids: Wilson Staff Fybrids 21*, 24*, UST V2 stiff
Irons: Callaway X-20 Tour, 5-PW, Rifle Project-X (flighted) 6.0
Wedges: Cleveland CG15 DSG 52* & 58* +/- 56* Niblick

Putter: Yes! Amy


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Thanks for the help, just wanted to update.  I kinda like the mallet style even though its usually associated with SBST.  So I got a Cameron Red X 5 and its been a huge help to my putting.

Driver - Cleveland Launcher, Aldila DVS 55-R Shaft, cutoff to 42" 4 Wood - TaylorMade Burner 2.0 Superfast Hybrid - TaylorMade R11 Rescue, 18.5* Irons - 4-P TaylorMade R7 Wedges - Cleveland Forged 588's 50*, 54*, 60* Putter - Scotty Cameron Newport 1.5 Ball - Bridgestone E6 :-P


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