Rossa, Odyssey. and somebody else.
Two sales people at Golf Smith told me, yes they are made that way, some people want their hands behind the ball? A salesman at Rodger Dunn tells me its the hot thing on tour???
PS: I'm more interested in getting a Edel fitting. I putt better NOT looking at the ball and wonder why?
"Tin man, What exactly is pigeon toed? like my feet are sorta pointed outwards and not straight? Then yes i am pigeon toed LOL. It sucks and it's hard to align my shots, and on putting it's even worse lol."
No, Your not pigeon toed (toes pointing inwards). Your Duck Footed (so am I) which is not a big deal playing golf. Bring you feet straight - even if its uncomfortable - align you shot - with out moving your heels - rotate your feet out to where its' comfortable. (Easier done then explained)
I'm at a loss how you can be knocked kneed (Knees pressing in) and duck footed at the same time.)
Duck feet is bad for running. Pigeon Toed is bad period!
I'm guessing that "knock kneed" means your pigeon toed too? (Lower body stuck in internal rotation.) Study the basics of weight distribution during the swing and figure out what you have to do with your body.
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Once again I'm guessing that the condition that makes you knock kneed also affects your upper body. If so, you may have to grip your club in a manner that goes against the book. An neutral grip in internal rotation looks to others as a weak grip. Conform to what the book says is "neutral" and your too strong. (Reverse that for being stuck in external rotation. Ignore all this if your normal.)
To sum that all up. Study how the ball reacts to the club face and find a grip that works for you.
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