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Less brown dead spots on the greens is beneficial for everyone, I mean you all had the right intentions in trying to get rid of the dents made on the green. Now with the proper technique there are no side-affects . It's unfortunate that I believe the vast majority of those fixing their ball marks incorrectly will never come across this forum or anything close to being as informative. So at least those that were previously fixing their ball marks incorrectly on this forum went out of their way to become more informed about golf and it's intricacies.

Eh...whatever. I guess I apologize for reading too much into your posts. However there's no way the OP comes off as trying to sell people on Yes! putters more than you with Rife. He simply posted a review...with his own personal analysis of the putter. This is generally beneficial for anyone interested, as smart consumers will read whatever they can find about a product...even if it is just an opinion. He stated what he liked etc, specific things about the putter he noticed. You just kind said "Rife is great because other people like them"... Again, whatever...i apologize if i made something out of your post that it wasn't. It just seemed that way.

That actually makes complete sense. It's not that I didn't think you couldn't use the scotty tool to properly repair a ball mark, it's that I feel it is misleading in its name (Pivot) and somewhat in its design. Unless someone already knows the correct way to fix a ball mark I just think this tool would most likely be improperly used.

Once again, your cup of tea isn't mine, and it's fine that way. I only feel the need to reply to you since you came in this thread and decided to tell the dude who just posted a huge review of this putter that he screwed up...and should have tried a different putter (which I'm sure you're biased to). Even after him saying how happy he is with the new putter, etc. And as far as Rife being popular on the Champions tour etc, congrats to them. Selecting a putter is such an individual process that I can't imagine you would actually think a Rife would be the best decision for everyone. And Rife is definitely not the first brand of putters to gain popularity on tour without compensation to the players...in fact nowadays it seems like some new company's putters are popping up every other month on tour.

in all fairness, the putter for you might not be the putter for someone else. I rolled the ball with nearly every putter I could get my hands on and could never get comfortable with any of the Rifes. For some reason it felt and looked like I was swinging a plastic putter head.

Although I know putter grips are very individual I completely agree with putterhead, the stock Yes! grip is just too narrow...I quickly changed out to a Winn Midsize Pistol grip. Although I now have a sophia, my first Yes! putter was the tiffany...and sometimes I definitely miss it. The face-balance and weight of the putter just made that baby nearly swing itself. Although I don't really suffer anymore from bad alignment when putting...I also agree that this alignment aid seemed to work best for me when compared to other brand's offerings. The tiffany also works really good for people like myself that like to visualize and think about stroking the ball straight back and straight through (my putting stroke isn't actually straight back and straight through, just the way I like to think about rolling the ball...seems to helps). ...and ONE more thing I have to second from the OP is the feel and sound of Yes! putters. No ting, pink, ping, tink, whatever...when you hit the sweet spot of a Yes! putter you know. Like the OP said you hear only the ball rebounding off the putter face, along with a buttery-smooth, soft feel that just resonates through the body...you barely feel the ball. When you don't hit the sweet spot...you immediately know. To me the difference is that you discernibly feel the putter striking the ball, along with the sound being closer to the little knock you hear with non-milled/non-insert putters. All in all I have loved both of my Yes! putters...the feel...the audio feedback...the great roll it provides...if anyone is in the market for a new putter they should definitely give some Yes! putters a test run.

This is exactly what I'm saying, the name even implies that the bump should be used as a pivot point. Those who don't care to educate themselves on the intricacies of golf will most definitely be leaving brown spots all over the greens.

well...almost anything, even a tee, is good if you know the proper way to fix a ball mark. I just think the pivot tool's look and design would mislead/prolong bad habits for the unknowing/less-informed golfer.

Can someone explain to me how this divot tools design is supposed to work? To me it seems like it would encourage people to 'repair' ball marks the improper way of shoving down and into the sides of the mark and lifting up? It just screams to be used like a see-saw, no? This can't be right coming from such a putter genius like Scotty can it?

I actually enjoyed this post the most out of this whole thread of awesomeness. No...really? The dude with three hole in ones was joking?... joking ... joking ... JOKING . You'll figure it out.

I completely agree with what craigmac said above. Reading a putt is like solving any other mystery...you want as much information as possible to help you make a decision. This includes approach shots, chip shots, other putts, etc. Anytime any ball is rolling near the hole you should give it your complete attention, noting how they react will greatly help in reading you putts.

Strikes me more as a comment rather than a thought...not sure what you are trying to imply?

This is getting confusing. In the other thread comparing the taylormade tp balls to the prov1/prov1x you insisted on making it clear that balls that launch low will be the higher spinning balls, and usually climb higher overall in their ball flight as compared to their initially higher launching and lower spinning "sister" ball. So wouldn't that mean that the lower spinning ball (prov1x) would have a lower overall ball flight?

Dent - 92 srjorion - 93 Craig Mac - 94 BritBoy - 95 Bump-n-MI - 96 blurry - 96 ERC7.5-97 bogeyhitter25 - 98 underparnv - 98 Cizzle - 99 x-forged- 100 michaeljames92 - 100 Pinseeker81 - 101 AceDunk - 101 i-Guy - 102 Wisco-Kid - 103 MCRhea - 103 Klew - 104 rudygu - 104 GoingfortheGreen - 105 Rusty2228 - 106 geezer -107 JeffG - 107 Wilsh99-108 Alex B - 108 iacas - 109 BigAl5150 - 109 Finn07 - 109 Leonardite - 110 Atltony - 111 Rx Phoenix - 112 Three Putt - 112 Golf_Junkie27-114 Elsfan 117 Razorhog - 119 InTheTwenties - 125 111 seems reasonable, but I mainly picked it because it had not been chosen yet. -Also added Wilsh99's guess back into the mix as it somehow had not been carried on after his initial post.

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As far as loft angle goes I think anything from 54 to 58 can be considered a sandwedge these days, however to me the main factor in a club being a sandwedge is the bounce angle. A sand wedge should have a bounce angle around 10 degrees or so (some as low as 8...some up to like 16?). The bounce: (sandtrap aricle on bounce: http://thesandtrap.com/columns/bag_d...why_it_matters ) ...is what helps the club glide through the sand or thick rough instead of just digging in, I'd explain further but the link above is more than thorough. The rule of thumb is if you tend to take deep divots higher bounce is preferred, shallow divots lower bounce..so try out some clubs with different bounce angles in a course like setting to see how they react to the turf with your swing. As far as the loft angle is concerned just check out the loft of your pitching wedge, and go from there. Sets today come with a pitching wedge anywhere from 45 to 48 degrees, so you can see how its important to know the loft of your PW. I believe the desired loft difference between wedges is 4 degrees when thinking in a PW+3wedge system such as PW-GW-SW-LW.

A yes! putter or any other putter that combines low loft with 'horizontal' style grooves would tend to not pop the ball up upon the initial strike...but it's not like its creating magical suction between the ball and the ground....if the ball is rolling on a bumpy surface its going to pop up a little here and there.

That is a pretty unique dent there, I'm not a golf club expert so can't really tell you if it will effect the entire face of the club. If it has done damage to the entire face I would think you would soon find out...however I think it should probably only immediately effect that specific little area where the lip has formed. So if you need to keep using that driver for a little while or whatever...my advice would be to hit the sweet spot.

Everybody is most definitely right that without more info or pictures/video of your swing it will just be a guessing game, but I'm sorta down to play. This instantaneous and mysterious loss of ~30yds happened to me about half a year ago. I had just got my new irons (also going from r flex to s) and it was a big adjustment for me, and for some reason was digesting ALL the crazy swing tips I could take in through my eyes and ears at the time. I went from hitting my old 7-iron right around 145 to hitting it at best 120... I was so frustrated because I thought the new irons were just a little out of my league and that was that. So I brought my old irons out to the range the next day and BAM!...same stuff, different day. So, nothing wrong with any of the clubs, something was wrong with the operator as usual. I figured out that all that talk about hitting down on the ball (which is important, don't get me wrong) had led to me coming down waaay too steep on the ball, along with a slight casting motion. This swing would still hit the ball straight, but basically balloon every shot into outerspace with minimal distance. I worked on flattening out my swing a touch along with holding my wrist break/lag longer and distance has long surpassed what I used to hit my old 7-iron. just a thought.

The thing that gets to me the most is when I'm playing with a friend who happens to play much slower than me. It's hard not to come off like you're nagging them along. Recently if one of my playing partners is obviously slowing us down for no good reason (ie. insisting on waiting for me to putt or chip on before reading their putt, chip whatever; insisting on teeing off in order of honors; waiting to walk up to and assess their shot in the fairway/rough until I've hit when completely out of my shot line; or leaving their bag on the wrong side of the green) I will just show them the back of the card which states "Play Ready Golf!" and kinda draw an analogy to a restaurant which says "No Shirt/No Shoes/No Service" and ask them if they obey those rules. Obviously they say yes and then I proceed by saying that a golf course is just like any other business and you should follow their rules as well. Kind of a softer way of telling people they are causing slow play and need to hurry up. Anyone have other ways to gently tell people they need to pick up the pace?

I've had a couple interesting days, but to name the top contenders first would have to be the day where I got out on a short 9 hole course around 10am...while putting on the 3rd green it started snowing. Being that this is in atlanta and we don't get snow all too often I thought that it was pretty awesome, and kept playing. While walking up the only big hill on the course which also happens to be the furtherest point from the parking lot(isn't this how it always happens?) the snow turned to hail, slightly smaller than marbles but hurt like hell. Trying to run up the hill and to my car with my bag and also trying to cover my face was a challenge I'd rather never face again. Another time that comes to mind was one morning my friend's mom wanted him and me to bring his little brother out to play golf. His little brother had been getting lessons and was really excited about playing with us, etc. We get to the course and it's like high 30s...pretty cold weather for around here. It began drizzling on the 4th hole and by the 8th all I was thinking about was finishing the 9th because it was on the way back to the parking lot. However, his little brother wouldn't hear anything about not finishing the full 18, he had just been completely too excited about this to not finish. By the 12th his little brother was wearing my spare glove backwards on his right hand after complaining about how cold his hands were...I believe I somehow shot in the 80s that day though. And I would mention some of the scorchers I've played in but living in middle Georgia for a good bit of my life you get used to 90-100+ days with 90% humidity if you're lucky . (days of 98% are pretty common.)

If you decide to go the hybrid route...I would say it is most important to look at the loft degree of the club and not the number. For instance my Cleveland Halo 3 Hybrid has 22 degrees of loft...while the Taylormade R7 3 Hybrid has 19 degrees of loft, with their 4 Hybrid being 22 degrees. Even with the Halo's modest, "true to iron" lofts I easily hit it the hybrid 10 yards farther than a pure 3 iron...so you see how thinking 3 hybrid will replace 3 iron just doesn't work out most of the time.

Unless you strictly play your sandwedge from bunkers, I'd say you're probably better off with the 10 bounce. I just recently switched from a Cleveland 56/14 to a Vokey 56/10... and the sheer versatility of the 10 bounce really shines through while still being quite predictable from the sand. With my old sandwedge with 14 bounce, there was really no way I was going to open up the face to get chips and pitches to check up, seeing as the bounce would lift the leading edge about a quarter inch off the ground when opening the face. This whole predicament led me to chipping and pitching with my 60 degree way too often and usually coming up short. Getting the 56/10 really brought my sandwedge back into play on those chips and mini-flops where I want a slight bit of roll-out.

lol, for some reason I went to work and thought about you're name referring to georgia southern...and how I've had so many people say "the real GSU" to me, haha. Not that I care but you would think that Georgia State would be the more formidable GSU seeing as it is the STATE university, and not just a part (Southern) of the STATE. :p On topic, hunching over definitely isn't helping you not whiff the ball...because when you hunch you tend to move around a lot more during your swing which would lead to some whiffs.