sabram

Never worked out, unless walking the golf course and pressing a TV remote control are working out

I LOve being the first one out in the morning, having no one in front of me and playing a fast round. It is sometimes difficult to wake up but it's worth it to me. Then I'm home in time to do things with the family

Haven't played it. Read great things about it. I'll be in Michigan in August and hopr to play Arcaia. There are so many excellent courses in Northern Michigan it's hard to choose just one or two. Post a report and some photos when you get back.

I'm a 14.5 hdcp and am also a short hitter around 200-210 on average from the tee. I have no great strengths and no great weaknesses in my game. It just seems that one aspect of my game is missing most days. One day it can be hitting it crooked off the tee, another day poor putting, another day bad bunker shots.... There are a few long holes on my home course that I can't reach in regulaton even if I am hitting good shots, so in order to get a par on those holes I need to put a pitch or chip close and one putt. I just don't do that often enough. My other problem is that I am hitting many approaches from 140 to 180 yards out and not hitting enough GIR. I'll put my appraoches close to the green but not hit them. With lots of greenside bunkers, deep rough and water that is a recipe for a bad score.

Sorry to hear about your sister. Hope her condition improves.

Thanks for the report. Look forward to hearing about the rest of the trip. If the two photos you posted were from Eagles nest, it looks like it is in pretty good condition

Grow up. Whats with the "S**t" ? It doesn't mean all Americans and it doesn't mean I'm speaking for anyone other than myself. It was meant to say I'm an American and my observation that that is how courses are groomed and generally preferred here in the US as compared to England and Scotland. I've played more than 500 courses here and in the UK and I can assure you that for the most part courses there are not manicured the way they are here In any event, don't worry. I would never want to speak for YOU

Amen. I don't know why we Americans are so enamoured with perfectly manicured deep green courses. I've played some spectacular courses in England and Scotland that are very rough around the edges compared to most US courses and not nearly as green and manicured, but they were no less playable and lots of fun to play. I just got back from Michigan where the courses just opened for the season. The grass was not very green but the golf was super. We need to stop whining whenever a course doesn't look like Augusta National. I know its easy to get carried away with praise for courses in prstine condition. I do it myself, but we need to get over it and let golf get back to its roots. I thought the Golf Digest article was very interesting

If money is no object these are the most memorable courses to play: Troon North - Monument or Pinnacle The Boulders - South We-ko Pa - Cholla or Saguro Grayhawk - Raptor Dinosaur Mountain @ Gold Canyon (This is further away, but less expensive than the others.)

Lots of excellent courses on your itinerary. You will have a great time. The courses at Capitol Hill and Grand National are all great, but my favorite is Cambrian Ridge. Holes 3 through 9 there are fantastic.

If you really want the buzz on MB golf check out this site: http://forums.prospero.com/mbgolf/messages These guys know everything there is to know about MB Golf. Eagles Nest is an inexpensive course that is okay as a warm up, but not in the same caliber as Thistle and Carolina National

It's true Thistle has ten minute tee times, but when i played there wer no rangers out and it ended up being one of my slowest rounds. You just have to be prepared fro slow rounds in MB. Still, I liked Thistle a lot!

It's an okay course. Super service and conditions but the holes aren't really like the real ones. It's fun to do once, but there are better courses in Myrtle Beach. I would play Caledonia, The Dunes, Rivers Edge, Tigers Eye and several others before i would play World tour. Here is a link to photos of world tour. Each photo has a description of the hole and what hole it is supposed to emulate. http://groups.msn.com/mbgolfpics/myr...o&PhotoID;=2169

My wife is from Denver and I play every time we go out for a visit. The Denver metro area has lots of excellent golf in a wide range of prices. Most of the courses that I've played there are North, East and West of town. I haven't played South of town (where you are) except to play the Broadmoor in Colorado Springs which is great, but expensive. If you are willing to travel these are my favorites: Fossil Trace Murphy Creek Green Valley Ranch Hyland Hills - Gold Riverdale - Dunes The top rated courses near Castel Rock are Highlands Ranch, Lone Tree, The Ridge at Castle Pines, Bear dance and Red Hawk Ridge. I haven't played these but they are close to Castle Rock and I've read a lot of good things about these courses. Wellshire is a Denver Muni course on the South side of town. It is an okay track (an Old Donald Ross design) and pretty inexpensive. Not in my top 10, but a good bargain

I've played all of the courses mentioned in the thread so far. Here are a few rambling thoughts...I like Reflection Bay and the Falls a lot. Bali Hai is somewhat like Reflection Bay with more plam trees and sand and a lot more jets about 100 feet above your head as it's right next to McCarron Airport. If you like the mountain holes on the back 9 at the Falls you will love Wolf Creek. Every hole at Wolf creek is as spectaular as the best hole at the Falls. Wolf Creek is about a 75 minute drive North of the strip in Mesquite. It's worth the drive and green fees are significantly less than the courses in Vegas. I enjoyed the courses at Revere at Anthem (Lexington and Concord), but you can do better than those. The holes there seemed to blend into one another and there are lots of houses. I was disappointed with Rio Seco. For the money, I prefer to play any of the three Paiute courses (Sun Mtn, Snow Mtn and Wolf). They are always in great shape and fun to play. Wolf is a bit harder and more expensive. The other two (Sun and Snow) are bargains by Vegas standards. Paiute is about 25 minutes North of the Strip and well worth the drive. Another good bet are the two courses at Primm Valley (Lakes and Desert). They are fantatsic, two different styles, well conditioned and not too expensive. Primm is a 45 minute drive South of the Strip. If Dragon Ridge has not yet gone private it is a very nice course near Henderson that I prefer to the Revere courses. If you want something a little less expensive two very good muni's are Wild Horse which is only 10 minutes from the strip and Boulder Creek in Boulder City about 30 minutes south. I was pleasantly surprised by Tuscany. It is located very close to Lake Las Vegas. Not quite as nice but almost, and is much less expensive than Reflection Bay or the Falls. Here are links to some of my photos of the Primm Valley courses, Dragon Ridge, Wolf Creek and the Revere courses http://sports.webshots.com/album/557768692fBmMJz http://sports.webshots.com/album/557831461nMfftu http://sports.webshots.com/album/557826506HYlPLl

Here is a link to an article by george Peper debating which is better for Golf Scotland vs. Ireland. http://www.linksmagazine.com/golf_tr...._ireland.aspx I debated this myself last year and decided to go to Scotland, but either country can provide a golf trip of a lifetime. Both are currently expensive for Americans as the dollar is weak vs the pound and Euro. As Peper indicates, Ireland has some of the best first line courses, but Scotland has more depth on its roster. If you don't want to do much driving you can choose one small area in Scotland and have more great golf than you could play for a month. I stayed in Troon on the Ayrshire coast. There are more than a dozen first rate courses within a very short distance including Turnberry, Prestwick, Royal Troon, Western Gailes, Glasgow Gailes, Dundonald, Barassie, Irvine and the Prestwick public courses. There is a very good article in this month's travel & Leisure golf about this part of Scotland. Turnberry, Prestwick and Western Gailes are "must play" courses in Ayrshire. Western Gailes is a great bargain and one of the best surprises I've had anywhere. Here is a link to an excellent website that has articles, reviews, ratings and photos of all of the best Irish and Scottish golf courses. http://www.top100golfcourses.co.uk/ If you are looking for a specialist in planning golf trips to Scotland I highly recommend Joan Montgomerie of Moss tours. She has played just about every copurse you can think of and will help personalize your trip to suit exactly what you want and has lots of helpful tips for making your trip a success and she is a super nice lady. I always plan my own golf trips, but was glad I used her for my trip to Scotland http://www.mossgolftours.com/ If you decide to go anywhere near Troon you have to stay at the Sandhill House B&B.; It overlooks Royal Troon and the sea. It's the best B&B; I've stayed at anywhere in the world. Finally, here's a link to photos of my golf trip to Scotland http://sports.webshots.com/album/558380032gZHwdf

You will like Thistle. I played there about ten days ago. It was in perfect condition. Altough it doesn't have the pretty marshland views liek Caarolina National, it has some interesting holes with a mix of open holes and wooded holes. The open holes are subject to a lot of wind. There is a lot of sand and water at Thistle. They have some excellent but difficult par 5's. my favorites were #5 on the North 9 and #7 on the West 9. Thistle has 27 holes. Here is a link to my photos of Thistle http://sports.webshots.com/photo/2416781630100544033kgKdnb Enjoy your trip