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There should be no conscious hand action in the golf swing whatsoever.. this is impossible to do consistently. Most of the power comes from the body, mainly the hips and knees. The arms do provide a great amount of power as well. The hands simply follow the arms, so it's important to train your arms to act the same way swing after swing by practicing 20 minutes of slow motion every day.

BS article for so many reasons. It should also be noted that Woods is 6 feet 1 inch; 185 lbs is perfect at that height; 158 is too skinny.

Here's the secret: At address the right elbow should point to the right hip, and the left elbow should point to the left hip. Now... there is no conscious hand action in the golf swing what so ever... so something has to bring the hands back to a correct, square, impact position. This is the job of the left elbow. Before impact, the wrists will be cocked, and the shaft will be about parallel with the ground. Then, the left arm takes control. If you rotate the left elbow so it points at the left hip like it did at address, your club face will be square. Try it and see. And to do this you need a weak/neutral grip. I don't think it works with a strong grip. This is one of the reasons Ben Hogan switched to the weak grip... with a strong grip you are forced to flip your hands over at the end, so if you aren't perfect you will hook the ball every once in a while. It's amazing how many pros would benefit from this little trick.

I don't agree Avid Golfer. Hogan advocated having the arms as close together as possible because this helps them act as one unit. He wants you to feel like you are swinging with one big arm. Having them close together also makes your arch longer and more consistent. He put it in 5 Lessons because he feels it is a fundamental. Pictures of him don't show the arms as close together as possible because it was painful for him to do it. You can be sure though, that if it wasn't painful he would have been doing it. It's true that the arms should be on the sides of the chest, not on top. Having them on top slouches your shoulders and creates no active tension. The upper part of the arms should be pressed hard against the sides of the chest. This gives you a sense of fixed jointness between the arms and the wrists, and when you have this it tends to bring all the elements of the swing together. I don't believe in "relax and play golf," and neither did Hogan. I press the upper part of my arms so hard against the sides of my chest that you couldn't break them apart.

I pay no attention to how my shoulders are. I just make sure that: -the upper part of my arms are pressed very tightly against the sides of my chest -the elbows are close together, so I can hold a tennis ball between them if I wanted -the elbows are as close to my body as possible, not struck out from the body. -the left elbow is pointed to the left hip and the right elbow is pointed to the right hip. -there is a feeling of fixed jointness between the arms and wrists. This is the most important. -the right elbow is slightly bent while the left is straight Edit: to edit, yes the shoulders are slightly forward, but they aren't slouched over the ball. Having my shoulders pinned back does not let my arms move freely at all. Also, I disagree with your B picture. In golf the knees work towards each other. The right knee stays braced: if it sags to the right it takes the whole body with it. The left knee breaks to the right on the back swing.... so it makes sense to start them pointed in.

The only golf book you'll ever need. I've played golf for one year and, with this book, I've achieved more than the average golfer will in a lifetime. Everything in it is spot on and perfect. Most people just don't give it a chance. They ignore the big capital letters printed numerous times in the book that it is ENTIRELY POSSIBLE FOR A MAN OR WOMAN WITH AVERAGE COORDINATION TO BREAK 80 IN 6 MONTHS. Not only is it possible, but Hogan says that you will break 80 in 6 months if you practice for 30 minutes every day. There are also those who disagree with some of the instruction in the book. For example: people say that Hogan didn't keep his arms as close together as possible as the pictures showed in the book. The truth is that Hogan couldn't keep his arms close together because he wasn't physically capable. The car accident he was involved in forced his body to heal in ways that made it painful to do this. He had to bring his arms together in later parts of his swing to compensate. Hogan doesn't teach "his swing" in the book. Actually, he doesn't teach a specific swing at all. He teaches the fundamentals, and with this, you will naturally create your own swing. To quote: "...style is function and function is style." People say that Immelman swings like Hogan... I always laugh and say "yeah, he swings like a crippled guy." If you swing correctly as shown in the book you will actually have a natural ball flight from right to left (not a fade like Hogan). Hogan had to make adjustments to create his power fade, and in 5 Lessons he said that the truly fortunate golfer is the one who doesn't have to make adjustments. Luckily for me I haven't had to make any adjustments (unless I have without me knowing it.) If only people would just trust it.

Ben Hogan's 5 Lessons explained it to me better than anyone else could. It's really simple: turn your hips back to the left. If this doesn't work, then there is something else wrong with your back swing, stance and posture, or grip. There isn't anything else to it.

Let's not forget that Hogan was involved in a bad car accident that changed his body completely. He explained to John Schlee (one of his students) that he couldn't start them together like this because of this accident, but to quote (not exactly): "I'm showing you the swing that I would be doing if I was physically capable." He said that he had to bring them closer together at later parts of his swing. Also it was Hogan who recommended the tennis ball drill. Remember in Hogan's 5 Lessons he wasn't teaching his swing, but the fundamentals stripped to their most basic nature. Everything in the book is exactly correct, in my opinion.

your knees look great, they should be pointed in like that. You should push your elbows as close together as possible (as recommended in Hogan's 5 lessons). You'll find that the pockets of the elbows will point to the sky when you do this. your elbows should still be pointed at your hips in this position. To test, hold a tennis ball between your forearms. You should be able to swing back and forth to at least hip level with the ball there.

Yeah. The hips start, which bring the hands to about hip level. Then the shoulders, arms, and hands unwind in one cohesive movement from start to finish. The movement of the hips is the cause, and the dropping of the hands is the result. The pro told you (drs6222) to drop your hands, which isn't the right way to start the downswing.

I don't recommend lessons as most people don't teach properly. Get some cheap clubs; a standard set is fine. Then get Hogan's 5 Lessons. Practice the things in the book every day for 30 minutes, and in two months you will be "intermediate" or close to it. In 6 months you will be breaking 80 or very close to it. I say this because it works. The other day I shot a 79, and I've only bought three things for my golf swing since I started a year ago (besides balls, tees, etc): Hogan's 5 Lessons (book), The Secret of Hogan's swing (book, not necessary), and a set of clubs from Walmart for $150. Forget about putting and chipping, just learn how to swing the club for now.

Just eat real foods. Get a lot of protein, carbs, and fat before you go on the course. Red meat + wheat pasta is a great choice. Whenever you eat pasta, rice, or bread, always make sure it's wheat because wheat digests slower than white carbs. Don't worry about vitamins or supplements. Just drink water.

Bad pro... bad pro... He's right that you should drop the hands before you open up your shoulders, but he didn't tell you how to do it. Another case of someone thinking in terms of the result, instead of the cause. The hips start the downswing, which bring the hands to about hip level. Then the shoulders open. Then the arms move, then the hands. You move your hands last. Other than that, I can't help you. You are compensating for your out to in swing by opening the club face. You need to rebuilt your swing from scratch, starting with the grip. Drills wont help.

Start with the sand wedge and work your way to the longer irons, then woods then driver. Don't stop hitting the club you have until you get it the way you want. Here's how I practice: fade, straight shot, draw. I keep doing these until I get it the way I want, then I move to the next club, all the way to the driver. Also start off by doing some slow motion. Hit the ball normally. You'll look silly because the ball will only move a couple yards, but when you practice in slow motion you can control all aspects of your swing.

Here's the best thing to do: take your bodyweight and multiply that number by 18. This is the amount of calories you should eat every day. So if you are 200 lbs you will eat 3600 calories every day. Do strength training. Don't train with low weight and high reps because it doesn't do anything for you. Train heavy, 5 reps or less. Strength training will convert your fat to muscle, which will help your golf swing and health. More muscle means more calories burned, which will mean more fat loss. Look to lose fat, not weight. Aim to get at least 1 gram of protein per lb bodyweight. So if you are 200 lbs, get 200 g of protein per day. That isn't too hard, thats just three medium sized chicken breasts. Eat healthy carbs. Whole grain and wheat only. Don't eat any carbs that are white or can be cooked white. Get fish oil tablets and take 5-6 a day. Eat beef because it's high in saturated fat. This increases testosterone which will burn even more fat and build more muscle. Note that eating maintainance calories (like above) will not put on bulk. You will maintain your weight while losing fat. so the best solution is strength training. You don't benefit golf by doing cardio only, same with just dieting. Strength train and you'll see improvements in golf and your body.

You can't change the shape of the muscle to make it "cut." High weight, low reps will build strength. High weight medium reps will build mass. I don't need research to back up my claims (though I have done my research). I went from a measly 120 lb squat to 275 lb squats in three months doing sets of 5 repetitions (which build strength, by the way, not mass). Eating will dictate if you put weight on the scale or not. Here: (Sets of 5) + 4500 calories a day = you will grow and have a DENSE LOOK (Sets of 6+) + 4500 calories a day = you will grow and have a BIG PUFFY LOOK, LIKE A BODYBUILDER. You will also slow down because you will be emphasizing mass growth over strength gains. Try it and see... (Sets of 5) + eating the same amt of calories that you burn = fat loss, strength gains, and you will not gain or lose weight. Most coaches and trainers don't know what they are doing, that's why people drop out of gyms so much, because they don't get results.

My bad, I actually meant to say it is less steep than the back swing plane, and from the inside out. Thanks for correcting me

I stated in another thread (many threads actually) that you shouldn't stretch your lower back. Never stretch it if you want to keep it healthy! Tricep dips can be bad for the shoulders because of the awkward position it puts them in. Normal dips are better anyways. Forget about bicep curls, tricep extensions, etc. Forget about machines. These will not transfer into real life strength. Lift fast. It makes no sense to train slow for an activity that requires speed and power. No machines!! (I'll say it again ) 14-20 repetitions will emphasize muscle mass increase over strength. For strength you need to train low repetitions, 5 is perfect. Anyone who says otherwise probably just read wikipedia or something Did I mention no machines?!?! By the way, machines cause injury in the long run because they restrict your movement. Dumbells and barbells are much better. You need to train your legs! Stressing the legs releases hormones that let your whole body grow. Crunches are okay once in a while but in the long run they shorten your hip flexors. High repetitions with low weight for a "cut" look is a myth. You get "cut up" by having strong and dense muscles (by training with heavy weights), and having low body fat. Here: Strength: 1-5 reps Mass: 6+ reps Training for mass and using machines (like bodybuilders do) will decrease your distances in golf. If there's one thing you take from my post, it is that you should never stretch your lower back. Here's why: your lower back is made for stability, not mobility. Mobility is the job of other parts, like the hips. The lower back is made to be kept straight at all moments in your life (sleeping, walking, golfing, etc). Stretching it is as silly as stretching your knees and elbows.

If you want a healthy lower back, stop stretching it. Your lower back is made for stability, not mobility. Stretching the lower back is very bad and dangerous !

Check your arms at address. Push them as close together as possible. The pockets of your elbow should face the sky, but it looks like your left elbow's pocket is pointing to the right (and the elbow is pointing straight to the left). At address, the left arm should be straight, and the right arm should be slightly bent. Your right arm looks fully straight. The reason for this is because you want your arms and hands to act as one unit, almost like one big arm. There should be a feeling of fixed jointness between the arms and wrists. Another reason for this is because at impact, your left elbow should point directly to your left hip. This sets your hands in a position where they push as one unit, so that the right hand will never overpower the left hand. Right now if you point your left elbow to your left hip at impact your shots will fly straight to the left. For your push/slice I think Avid Golfer is dead on on the result . But he doesn't tell you the cause. Looks like you have a medium/long iron there, and you are using a less than shoulder width stance (from the heels). I use the stance you are using for my 60 degree wedge... For the 5 iron, have your heels shoulder width apart, wider for the longer clubs and shorter for the shorter clubs. The reason for a wide stance is this: it lets your shoulders and hips move freely and unbunched. the wide stance lets you manage correct hip turn easily. With a narrow stance you have to be careful with over active hips, but with a wide stance you can move your hips as fast as you can or want.

It does take hard practice and discipline. One must apply themselves intelligently and patiently. But it really is that simple. With a correct grip, stance, and posture you will automatically bring the correct muscles into play. And a correct waggle is basically an abbreviation of your full swing (the full swing is just an extension of your waggle). I've seen 4-5 videos posted on this site, and in each one of them there were very clear problems with posture and stance. People always follow up by making comments about the back swing and downswing... but if the poster would focus more on the grip and posture it would help him 100 times better. edit: to follow up, Hogan mentions this in 5 Lessons. You know how some days you "have it," and some days you don't? Hogan says if you check your grip, stance and posture, and waggle you will always feel like you "have it." Also, "impossible to play bad golf" is a stretch I realize now :P. It depends what you consider good or bad golf. When I nailed my grip, stance and posture, and waggle I was able to score in the high 80's, with no knowledge or attention put into the back swing or downswing.

Just try work on your game on the course. When you have a simple, correct, repeating swing you will be able to think strategy. Until then, you can't because you will never be able to execute any strategy. since you don't have a lot of time to go to the range, you should practice in slow motion at home.

The 2 plane swing is not correct. It's wrong because it requires manipulation of the hands and arms. Also the downswing should be hit from the inside out. But my quote is wrong. If you have a correct grip, stance and posture, and waggle you don't need to think of anything... plane, hip or leg movement, impact position, etc... if you have those three critical fundamentals mastered it's impossible to play bad golf, because you will be using the correct muscles for the swing.

Yes. The down swing plane is more steep and outside than the back swing plane. Even with this knowledge, you should give no attention to how your downswing plane happens during the swing. It doesn't help to feel it. Just initiate your hips, then swing your arms and shoulders at the ball as hard as you can. If you are correct at the top of your back swing, and have a correct grip and stance and posture, then you will automatically get on the correct downswing plane.

Your size is decided by your food intake, really. A caloric surplus will make you gain weight. Even if you do bodybuilding style training you wont get bigger without eating a lot of food. If you eat the same amount of calories as you burn each day, you will not gain weight whether you do strength training or bodybuilding. You will only gain strength. Still, strength training is better because you become stronger with it than bodybuilding routines. Strength training and bodybuilding does not impair flexibility, it helps and maintains it. But we really shouldn't bother mentioning bodybuilding on these forums anyways. Anyone who tries one of these routines will end up losing distance in the long run. Strength and power training, however, will help. If you're skinny (ideal weight for someone 6 feet tall should be about 180, you can work it out from there), then you should combine strength training with caloric surplus. Eat 6 times a day, 4500+ calories. This is what Tiger did. Get some skinny underweight, 6 feet tall at 155 lbs who can drive it 240 yards, then let him get to 180 lbs at the same bodyfat%, and I can almost guarantee he'll be driving it in the 300's range (assuming his swing isn't too bad). ^^^^^^^^^^^ that said, technique is the most important thing for gaining distance, then strength.