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It's your "private" forum, and you pay the bills, so you have the right to control content. That's the way Internet forums have always worked. Everyone go golf, stay safe. 😷

I guess if one needs to choose how they wish to put themselves at risk during a nationwide pandemic, playing golf sure is a lot better than going to WalMart or Home Depot or a pool party at LOTO. Yes, my thoughts are part of "Is Golf Available Where You Live." People are pretty much welcome to do what they want to do now that things are re-opening, but a reminder from just one person that there is still some risk involved probably won't be enough to keep golfers from golfing, but it needs to be said, just for balance. Like I've already said, this is the first time in 14 years that we're not back to work by now, so something's going on. There will be a new normal, governed by common sense and prevention. Like most everything else, how golfers golf, how courses operate, will be in the mix for a long time.

By Associated Press, Wire Service Content May 23, 2020, at 3:22 PM Western Montana Virus Outbreak Tied to Luxury Golf Club An outbreak of COVID-19 in western Montana is tied to an exclusive golf and country club developed by financial executive Charles Schwab. - - - - - -KATU News requested and received records from Portland's Parks & Recreation Department and discovered that from March 1 through April 6, 2019, there were 23,089 rounds of golf played at its five municipal courses. During that same time period this year, from March 1 through April 6, 2020, Portland Parks Golf saw an increase of 15% in golf rounds - 26,554 rounds of golf were played as the coronavirus outbreak spread in the Pacific Northwest. Portland golfers play through coronavirus pandemic at city courses Golfers are still swinging away at Portland's five city-owned and operated courses during the coronavirus pandemic, with more rounds being played compared to this time period last year, even as orders from the governor...

As to the question at hand, "Is Golf Available Where You Live?" from a course operator's point of view, my GM said this to me on March 24: We are closed as of today. (Course Superintendant) and I are the only ones left and we are tasked with keeping the golf course alive until we re-open. This really sucks but I’m glad to still have a job. I just feel really bad for everyone that had to be laid off. Are you still in FL? It has since reopened, but is not very busy. This is the first time in 13 years that I am not back working by March or April. So, not working and not golfing.

I very seldom fail to find the answer for something like that if I google it. Normally I find a video that steps me through it. I just replaced the power window actuator in our Escalade and the water level indicator in our washer. A similar thing was when I disconnected the rear air shocks on the Escalade, to find out how to disable the warning. I did that on our old Yukon, too. I just google stuff, google-search the parts, and fix what's broken. The answer to just about everything is a click away.

From my May 18 Post:

"Coronavirus started spreading in the U.S. in January, CDC says"

Not just golfers.

That was at the SW FL course I had just played the week before, when it was business as usual, no noodles and no precautions.

Glad to see there's a sense of humor among us. That's hard to come by lately. 😷

generally speaking 😷 Yeah, thanks, I've been getting help with my formatting. I take it you understood what I was saying. 😷 (I normally smile when I talk/post, but you can't see that through my mask.) 😷

Concerning COVID, unquestionably there is a difference of opinion between those who have been affected, who have the virus themselves or someone close to them does, because they did not take precautions themselves, or are around people who did not take precautions, or are health care or frontline workers, and those who have not gotten the virus.

Whether it contributed to the pandemic or not, I am going with what I witnessed and what has been determined to be true. During the very-busy Snowbird Season, and when a pandemic was well underway, it was business as usual at Florida golf courses, with no precautions being taken. Y'all have a nice day, and get at least one birdie.

That's March 1, a time when the spread was well underway in Palm Beach, an area that became a hotspot, and has since re-emerged as a hotspot. If they had known then what we know now, that scene might have looked at lot different, if at all. - - - - - - Palm Beach: Florida on Monday night removed data from the Department of Health website that showed 171 patients had coronavirus symptoms or positive test results in January and February, before any cases were announced to the public Coronavirus Florida: Patients in Florida had symptoms as early as January Florida on Monday night removed data from the Department of Health website that showed 171 patients had coronavirus symptoms or positive test results in "The Honda Classic was fortunate to have its event, which drew crowds of more than 206,000, end March 1, before the coronavirus became an issue." Really? 206,000 people in an area that already had had numerous COVID cases for 2 months.

The good news is that golfing now is no more dangerous than going to WalMart or Home Depot. The bad news is that golfing now is no more dangerous than going to WalMart or Home Depot. 😷

My point was simple, and accurately stated. I was wondering if country clubs may have contributed to the spread of the virus during the period before the lockdowns and closings, Mid-March, m/l, before there was general awareness, a period which has now been confirmed to have been community-spread. So, I was talking about December through Mid-March, and I related my experience at the end of that timeframe, when no precautions were being taken. To be really specific, Pence visited Sarasota on February 27 for a fund-raiser on Longboat Key. We got caught in the traffic lockdown on US 41 around the Sarasota airport, and it took us about two hours to find a way out of Sarasota. On that day there were no confirmed cases in Sarasota, but we now know it was there, and spreading, but had not been diagnosed as COVID yet. The first confirmed case in Sarasota was Friday the 13th (March). So, I was golfing at a busy, busy course, with no precautions being taken, after there were confirmed cases in the area. Although my speculation was not about the spread of the virus at golf courses since the lockdown/closings, there have been stories of continued socializing at some of the "Country Club" type courses in our neck o' the swamp, mostly couples congregating in groups in their golf carts. But, cutting to the chase, we are now in a period of extremely widespread spread, and more than 80,000 deaths, so any contact with anyone anywhere can be problematic. But, since we're going to cut everyone loose again, que sera sera. Florida golfers caught ignoring social distancing rules at golf course Last Friday, at the Pelican Golf Club in Belleair, golfers strolled down the fairways as they would on a normal golf outing.

Yes, really. It is now being discovered that there were COVID cases in SE FL long before anyone was aware of it, as early as December. I played my last round in FL in March, before there was much of a concern, but certainly after it was well entrenched, now that we know more. I was in close contact with many people that day. The Pro Shop was crowded when I checked in, the dining room was open and had maybe 40 or 50 people, sitting in groups, eating and drinking and talking to each other like folks do at country clubs. The practice tee, the chipping green and the putting clock all were packed. The self-service ice and water dispenser was still in operation, with others at it when I was. Litter had not been cleaned up and no disinfecting or cleaning was being done by anyone, anywhere. It was just business as usual at a club that typically has 300+ players a day. Then I was paired with three strangers. Now that I remember, this is when the Diamond Princess was looking for a place to dock. so . . . I joked about it when I introduced myself to my group. "Anyone been on a cruise lately? Anyone been to China? Anyone been to Fort Myers?" Coulda been not so funny. So, since SE Florida is such a hot spot, and is now re-erupting, like Palm Beach County this past week, and there was a COVID outbreak reported at at least one Trump club, surmising that it might have been floating around country clubs back then does not seem out of line. Partygoer at Trump National Golf Club dies of coronavirus – Daily Breeze The couple suspected of being the source of the contagion says it was not them.

Since country clubs are very social, it's surprising there hasn't been more spread through them. Perhaps some of those early ones in SE Florida that are now being recognized as COVID were. 😷

Study shows loud talking can generate over 1,000 respiratory droplets — but experts say 6 feet is still sufficient to protect against the coronavirus Researchers used laser light technology to track the respiratory droplets that were generated while study participants spoke.

COVID-related: ClubHouse Online Performance Dear ClubHouse Online Client, ClubHouse Online is currently receiving an unprecedented volume of traffic, and as a result the system is experiencing some performance issues. Most notably, pages on your club website may be loading much slower than you would typically see. We are treating this situation as our number one priority by focusing all available resources working toward a resolution. With this said, there is no single immediate fix that we are able to deploy and as a result, a number of measures are being implemented in an attempt to improve your website performance.These include changing when some daily processes run, from peak to off peak times. We believe that the sudden increase in traffic is a result of the large number of clubs throughout the world beginning to reopen. As clubs take steps towards normal operations, we are seeing a significant spike in web traffic and online reservations, which is unlike anything we have encountered in the past. We sincerely apologize for any issues you or your members may be encountering, and thank you in advance for your patience as we work to enhance your website performance. We will provide more updates on this situation as information becomes available. Thank you, ClubHouse Online Team Depends on your news source. Actually, more and more, it's becoming clear that there is more and more yet to be learned about it. Yesterday's update from the medical experts was that just talking (rather than coughing and such) can spread it. But, yes, they did acknowledge that it spreads easier inside, but it still spreads outside. Another acknowledgement, from New York, is that most of the new cases now are from inside the home. Me and mine error on the side of living, so take as much precaution as we can. I would say, "To each their own," if it only affected them.

Not that anyone here needs any help with this topic for themselves, but here's something you can share with those who might need it: What Set of Tees Should I Play? Making the jump from the driving range & practice area to the actual golf course can be an intimidating leap for many novice golfers. The anxiety typically sta - - - - - - Combo Tees Combo tees serve multiple purposes. They can be used between any and all sets of tees. It is a way for a golf course to update the course for their players without the added expense of constructing new tee boxes. It allows the player to move forward, or back, to allow for their change in abilities, without shocking their system. Combo tees will generally be indicated on the course scorecard, but if you see a White/Blue, Gold/Red or similar option on the course scorecard, this is likely an indicator of combo tees. If a player decides to play a combo set of tees while they are golfing and it is not in the GHIN system, there is a way to post a score that is acceptable. The USGA Handicap System not only allows, but encourages this. The player would find out the difference in the yardage for the combined set of tees that they played and adjust the Course Rating/Slope Rating up or down from the nearest set of tees. In fact, if you are not comfortable with any sets of tees that the golf course has on their scorecard, the USGA allows golfers to essentially create their own set of tees and still have the ability to post the round to GHIN.

I guess I read it wrong when he said stuff like I remember playing Harbor Towne at Hilton Head. . . . I’ve played with many guests That sounded to me like he was talking about golfers who were inexperienced at a course. Only he knows what he meant, of course. I don't think golfers typically play the wrong tees at their own course(s), ones they know and play often. As far as the comments I've made about first-time tourist golfers playing the wrong tee at my home course the last 12 years, they don't know how really tough it is when they're on the putting clock or practice range. Then they get on the course. I just hate to see them leaving the 18th Green, looking like they just got beat up, when they could have had a wonderful time. Of course, anyone who has worked at a golf course knows that as soon as someone gets on the first tee, common sense leaves them. I'm not sure where you got that, or why it would work, but I assume it should work backwards, too, meaning if you divide the distance you play by 36, that should be your 5-iron carry. Gosh, thanks, that just increased my 5-iron distance. Actually, it's my 5-wood distance . . . is that OK?

Me, too . . . every day running the first tee for the last 12 years. Perhaps what Sandy meant is that a lot of people play the wrong tee the first time they play a course. And what others mean is that those who are familiar with a course tend to not play the wrong tee.

Adjusting from a rated tee: Locate the nearest set of rated tees for the appropriate gender. Determine the measured difference between the set of tees being played and the rated set of tees. For differences under 100 yards (100 metres), no adjustment is necessary and scores can be submitted as usual; otherwise For differences between 100 and 300 yards (100 and 274 metres), the below table can be used to determine the adjustments required and issue a temporary Course Rating and Slope Rating. Using these guidelines and the table below, find the range that includes the yardage difference: Men’s Rating Adjustment Women’s Rating Adjustment Yards [Metres] Change to Course Rating Change to Slope Rating Yards [Metres] Change to Course Rating Change to Slope Rating 100 to 120 [100 to 110] 0.5 1 100 to 116 [100 to 110] 0.6 1 121 to 142 [111 to 130] 0.6 1 117 to 134 [111 to 122] 0.7 1 143 to 164 [131 to 150] 0.7 2 135 to 152 [123 to 139] 0.8 2 165 to 186 [151 to 170] 0.8 2 153 to 170 [140 to 155] 0.9 2 187 to 208 [171 to 190] 0.9 2 171 to 188 [156 to 172] 1.0 2 209 to 230 [191 to 210] 1.0 2 189 to 206 [173 to 188] 1.1 2 231 to 252 [211 to 230] 1.1 3 207 to 224 [189 to 205] 1.2 2 253 to 274 [231 to 250] 1.2 3 225 to 242 [206 to 221] 1.3 3 275 to 300 [251 to 274] 1.3 3 243 to 260 [222 to 238] 1.4 3 *Please contact your Authorized Association for any adjustment greater than 300 yards (274 metres) 261 to 278 [239 to 254] 1.5 3 279 to 300 [255 to 274] 1.6 3 agree I won't even correct the there, cuz you're meaning was obvious. 😷 But, I think what some here are trying to say is that they and the people they play with don't play from the wrong tees. FWIW, both your belief and their belief can be correct.

On some holes I could not reach the fairway from the tips (7324).