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Yeah. For me, it doesn't really matter besides being just curious about how it works. I leave mine on standard and never change it. Only wanted the SureFit head so I could try different shafts and change heads down the road if needed.

I guess I'm too stupid to grasp this. When you say "close the face 2°," do you mean with the SureFit tool, or just turning the club in my hands? If you don't change the loft and keep it at 9° but you're closing the face 2° by just turning the face closed and then you square it back up, wouldn't that just put you back at the same loft you started with?

Thanks, Erik. I'm still not sure I follow, though. So you can change the loft without changing the lie, but you can't change the loft without changing the face angle? Is that correct? If so, why does adding more loft equal a more closed clubface? Just seems to counter what you'd think would happen.

So it seems there's two different SureFit charts floating around: http://i.imgur.com/QlUpT5v.jpg and http://i.imgur.com/DY34Url.jpg The first doesn't have the "face angle" on the right side like the second does. With the first chart, it appears that if you go from A1 to A4, that you're adding 1.5 degrees of loft and the face angle stays the same. With the second chart, going from A1 to A4, you get an extra 1.5 degrees of loft and it closes the face 1.5 degrees as well. I guess my question is: How can you add loft and close the face at the same time. Seems odd to me. Anyone want to explain?

Great shots! Must be nice to have any club or shaft available in a second's notice. Curious... do you know what AD DI shaft was Furyk using?

There must be something in the water that golf instructors drink that makes them post something, but not really post anything...

Thanks. Had no idea. Mikeod5785 , Please disregard my question.

Everyone is entitled to have an opinion, I suppose. Since you feel it's garbage, would you care to enlighten the rest of us to the swing theory you subscribe to?

Could be your problem there. Might try gradually moving it up a little - a ball or so at a time - and see if that helps any. One ball back of center may just indicate that your clubface hasn't had the time to close enough yet so your path is inside-out and you're face is just slightly too open relative to that path or square to that path so you get the balls flying out to the right. I try to play my wedges maybe a ball forward of center (relative to my chest, not my feet) but everyone is different of course.

Definitely not an expert here, but how far back are you playing the ball at address?

Hilarious, but accurate! I guess you're right about the stereotypical guys they get for the show, but I guess, that's why the guys they get are on there, mostly for their personality so they draw ratings. If guys like myself were on there, the show wouldn't be very interesting. My personality and demeanor is not something people would watch. lol While Liam doesn't have the tournament experience, I'm going to go out on a limb and guess he hangs around a while. I think Liam works with http://www.youtube.com/user/golfrealitybymario as is seen in this vid: so I can only assume he really knows his stuff and by that, if he's in a challenge and something goes wrong, I think he won't be nervous because he'll know how to make adjustments on the fly.

I thought the same. Usually there's a couple guys on the show who can really play and then the rest are all a dime a dozen type guys who you see at any local muni. This year seems different. I can tell you without doubt that Rick Cochran can play. I see his name everywhere in every big tournament around the state. I'll be rooting for him.

Another from KY. Welcome!

They asked Molinari about this in the press conference after. They asked why he didn't just concede and half the hole and he mentioned that he was told by someone (I assume another captain) to play the hole out because if he conceded, it meant they tied with the US for the Ryder Cup. Even though Europe still retained the cup, they didn't want to end in a tie. So, blame someone, but not Molinari, he was doing what he was told.

Never heard that, but this seems like the most logical answer. I'll have to Google and see if I can find anything. This has bugged me since I watched it the other night.

Unless I'm missing something, the video you posted shows exactly what I recorded from The Golf Channel the other day. Jump ahead to 2:42 to see what I mean. Langer and Irwin have already teed off. Irwin's tee ball ends up on the right side of the flag and yet at 2:42 when Irwin is playing his second, he's chipping from the left hand side of the green where Langer's ball ended up. What am I missing here?

So, I'm watching a reply of the 1991 Ryder Cup last night before bed. It's Hale Irwin vs Bernhard Langer in the final match to decide the Ryder Cup. I noticed something that seemed odd, so I replayed it over a couple times and it still seems odd. Here's the breakdown and video that I took: The video starts with Hale Irwin hitting a tee shot on the par 3 17th. You can clearly see his ball land and come to rest on the right side of the green/fringe. They then cut to a reply of Langer's ball coming to rest on the left side of the green where it's into the crowd and just rolls out between a couple spectators. Then we see Langer hit is second shot from the left side of the green and finally we see Hale Irwin hit his second shot from the same side of the green as Langer. Wait... what? I just saw Irwin's ball come to rest on the RIGHT side of the green, not the left. I've watched it a few times and I just cannot see what I'm missing.

Thanks, Mike. Makes sense!

Thanks, Mike. That makes sense. Question: Club bottoms out at the left shoulder for good players. So, does that mean we should be playing driver off of our left toe so we are more likely to hit it on the upswing? Or is driver different in that we can still just play it off of our left heel (where most say it should be played)?

Sorry for the confusion. The video just describes low point, where the club bottoms out being even with the left shoulder. So, was looking for further clarification there. I know this happens when the weight is forward and the handle is forward, but your upper body isn't supposed to also go forward so seems like the low point would still be middle of the shoulders? Just trying to wrap my head around it.

I have, what's probably a dumb question, but here goes: Why is the low point in the swing at the left shoulder? If it's a centered pivot, and the upper center is the middle of the chest, why is the low point not the centered of the chest? Is it because of the hands being forward and maintaining of the wedges that moves the low point to the left shoulder?

I hear ya. I had the same initial preconceived thoughts based on looks. I also used to own the original 2-ball when it first came out 10 years ago or however long it's been now. I liked the 2-ball, but didn't love it. The 2-Ball Backstryke is a totally different look if you ask me. I'd love to try to Sabertook Backstryke. Just figure why try to fix something I'm confident in for the first time in a few years.

Another of my problems. After 20 years or so of reading and being told you have to roll the arms over to get draw spin, it's become a tough habit to break. I'm able to make ball first contact most of the time, but don't maintain the flying wedge for near as long as I need too.

That makes sense Erik. Arms fly off the chest, they can only go to the right, I suppose. Now that I think about it, during my last round I was hitting a lot of over draws. When I'm on the range (with the gloves under each arm) I don't hit many over draws, but on the course, it's my miss if I'm swinging well. So, I assume that the other day, the reason for my over draws is that my arms were flying off my chest and going more right thus more tilt of the spin axis?

No problem. Hope it works out as well for you as it has thus far for me.