
aedoue
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A friend who is 60 and has been playing many years one day talked me into giving up my pull cart and carrying instead, and I've never gone back. I have a minimalist bag (Mizuno Scratch Sac), and he was right -- carrying seems a little less tiring than the pull cart. He has a Ping bag that is made of ripstop nylon and has a handle that is designed to stand up and prevent the need to bend over. My sense is that carrying is not particularly stressful and is not going to setup any kind of overuse issue in my body. I am fit, though.
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I use my teaching pro instead of video. If a change he suggests doesn't feel good, it's usually because I haven't integrated the change from an intellectual concept to the body movement the words describe. I find that words are a poor language for communicating a movement pattern as complex as the golf swing. Very much Plato's shadows on the cave wall. Sometimes I discover a feel for the first time, and the words that he has used to describe it immediately jump into my head. "Oh, that's what he means by that!" I wish I'd learned this sport as a child!
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DJ, My thanks also for the workout details. I have similar disdain for the alternatives to REAL squats. If I can find the time I may move your reply over to a new thread to discuss workout details. Great post!
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I ran 40-45 mi/wk for years. Since I got the golf bug, I have better things to do with my time. I run 6-9 m/wk. Throw in a half dozen 10-60 sec fast intervals. It's enough for me.
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DJ Yoshi (and all), I'd like to know any specifics you are willing to share about the fast twitch training you are doing. I'd like to start incorporating it in my workouts. Thank you.
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nuggs, and all of you who are about to start the season, here's wishing you fun and success! Keep us posted.
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Life time of craziness, yeah... I haven't been at it that long, but I can tell that's the lure of the game. I'd like to believe that Fred Shoemaker and Tim Gallway are right, that the golf swing can be an unconsciously directed act and we don't have to observe all the little details, but I think it that is only part of the truth. I have noticed so many times that some part of the swing is dead on for months. I begin to monitor it less carefully, or not at all, or I monitor it but my perception of correct gets distorted (either more of the correction that was needed so long ago, or less) and I begin to execute that part of the swing poorly. As you describe, swing goes to pot, but the part of the swing where it feels wrong is usually not where the problem lies. Common faults are the ones that have been mentioned, grip and aim. Also spine angle, degree of knee bend, a little give in the hands at the first few inches of takeaway... And then there are the new faults that creep in that had never been a problem before. But that is a big part of the fascination of the game, the challenge to be cognitively aware of all of these parts, and then to put aside cognition and let a more primitive part of the brain execute. What fills me with awe of the game is that you are not the first 2 handicap to tell me this challenge never goes away.
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I hope many people reply to this thread; I am curious what others have experienced. I cannot compare my Mr. Crust to the modern pro, because I've never had a lesson from anyone else. I can tell you that taking lessons from Mr. Crust for the last few years has been one of the richest experiences of my life. Like master and apprentice, choreographer and dancer, together we are crafting my golf swing. It is amazing how he can see the details of a swing that is happening so quickly. The + to 5 caps come to him for a tuneup when they don't know what has gone wrong. He says he tried video in the 90's, and it wasn't helpful to people. I doubt he'll change, but I have just purchased a pocket video. I will show him some footage just to see if it gets him talking. I don't think he believes there is another person left alive who understands the golf swing as well as he, including all the big names. If someone gives him the freedom, in the form of regular lessons, there is only one swing he is going to teach. It's the one he learned from working for and playing with Jimmy Demaret and the consequent exposure to Ben Hogan, and years of getting what he saw in them into his own swing. There will be adjustments for the individual, and there is the acknowledgment that not everyone is athletically capable of learning it, but he believes there is a set of swing fundamentals that is superior to others. I could tell colorful stories, but I've given you the flavor. What a gift he has been to me.
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Result of stiff and longer clubs -- my experience
aedoue replied to aedoue's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
My hand to ground distance is pretty standard, but I stand fairly erect. Titleist said the shaft would play only slightly softer with the extra inch. The lie angle may well be making a difference. I tested 0 deg at 1", so wouldn't you expect me to need a lie adjustment for standard length? I do remember that the swing felt smoother, including before impact. That wouldn't be due to lie, would it? And that feeling that I knew where the top would be? Thanks very much for your input. I've learned quite a bit. -
Result of stiff and longer clubs -- my experience
aedoue replied to aedoue's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
Yeah, I need to clarify. Thanks for the interest. 1. I tried the soft and regular flexes in standard and 1/2 over for this same shaft. After seeing what I did with the 1" stiff, I tried the shorter stiff. Fell into the mediocre catetory with all the others. 2. Agreed. 3. Same Aldila shaft in each length. So distance expected to be due to length, not weight. 4. Well, isn't the one I hit with both max distance and max accuracy the one that fits? I know it's bizarre. I could call him and ask him to check the frequency of that shaft, but it felt stiffer than the regular, which felt stiffer than the soft. In the sense that the shaft felt solid, like I could tell where it was. -
getting stuck on the downswing
aedoue replied to shortstop20's topic in Instruction and Playing Tips
I have been struggling with this for a long time, and had a recent breakthrough when I realized I had tension in my shoulders/rotator cuff. When I relaxed my shoulders it freed my swing up. I got more power, and my body just cleared out of the way naturally. -
Bounce, High vs. Low or standard
aedoue replied to Dpricenator's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
Thank you. My guy is teaching me both, and more. I sometimes think he's made me learn the flop from the beginning because of what it can teach me longterm. -
I'm not sure how to do this. Part of my post relates to the other thread going on, and part of it doesn't. We seem to resist hijacking vigorously here, so I'm opting for the new thread. Thank goodness for these posts! I just went for an iron fitting. I don't know what my swing speed is, but hit my 7i 110-115 yd on a calm day. I was trying AP2's, and spinnng right and left all over the place, until the guy handed me a 1" over shaft. Then the distance increased a club or so, and they started going no more than a yard or two right or left of the flag. We left and came back to this shaft several more times, and it happened every time. It was a 75 g graphite, similar to the UST I have in my bag, but the green Aldila shaft. Stiff, because that's the only flex that was in the cart for 1" over. The magic seemed, to the fitter, to be the 1" over, and perhaps it is. I didn't hit the standard or 1/2" over in any flex or weight nearly as well. He recommends the 1" over in a soft regular or regular flex. I know from experience that when the shaft is too soft I can't control direction, and it goes right and left. Having hit the stiff shaft so well, there is no way I'll order a set of regular without first demoing it against the stiff. I have to thank you for backing up what the ball flight told me with your more extensive experiences. To me, ball flight tells the truth. Here's the part that is off topic: Have you any idea why my accuracy would increase very significantly just because of shaft length? Again, stiff didn't help in the shorter shafts. I know that goes against common sense. I am 5'7", but have played with 1/2" over since the start, thanks to the ideology of my teacher.
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Bounce, High vs. Low or standard
aedoue replied to Dpricenator's topic in Clubs, Grips, Shafts, Fitting
I'm a relative beginner, and just had a wedge fitting from a respected local pro. In a nice way, he told me that because my wedge play was awful, I'd have to get low bounce wedges. He told me that the proper way to play a wedge is to hit down and take a divot. I went back to my teacher, another respected local pro, and he told me that it is not necessary to take a divot with a wedge. He advocates what he calls "nipping the ball," coming through flat, like an iron shot, and letting the loft of the club elevate the ball. He definitely does not mean scooping. He said he played with low bounce wedges. He's a generation or two older than the first guy, if that's a clue. Am I perceiving correctly that there are differing schools of wedge play? If anyone can shed light on this, I'd be appreciative.